Crickdick
8/11/2009 8:28:11 PM
As this countrys second revolution looms in the near future. I only see the media blowing these stories way out of proportion blaming a person trying to make an honest living.Tragedies happen everyday.I have never heard of TGSCOM Inc. until I read an article in a local anti-gun newspaper.You are not to blame and I will be looking forward to making my first purchase from you.BUCKOFAMA
Arizonarifleman
8/8/2009 8:29:18 PM
Mr. Thompson, and the people at TGSCOM Inc.
I am behind you and your company 100%. If for one minute, I thought gun control could stop these actions, by people who will find "any weapon" to do their evil acts, I would support gun control.
What we have now, and sad to say, probably coming down the pike, is "citizen control", or I should say "subject control", as that will be what we become.
Regards,
ShoeFlyShoe
8/8/2009 1:11:26 AM
A man opts to take lives for no cause; the wake strikes on many shores. Todd Richmond of AP takes TGSCOM, Inc. to task: they’re somehow accountable. Surely none may be held responsible for their actions if another can be placed in the spotlight of blame instead. It's news even if untrue; a firearm was used. Richmond sullies TGSCOM, Inc. for selling a magazine and magazine loading “apparatus”, available from countless sources and benign in every way except as imagined by a light source like himself. He knows the sale did nothing to trigger or facilitate the rampage, but somebody must take the blame Richmond cannot bear to levy on the deserving – Mr. Sodini. Richmond is a bully-pulpit sensationalist who preys on those who know little about firearms or legitimate firearm ownership. His mighty pen fells the innocent, to what end? Read his feeble venture into the realm of once-respectable journalism. He earns our contempt and ridicule by his irresponsible twist on the truth.
Stillfree?
8/7/2009 10:43:53 PM
Cain slew Abel. It is tragic when innocent people lose their lives. I know if it was my wife, friend, relative, I would be enraged to say the least. If we could dump all the killing devices down to the bottom of the sea and live peacefully and happily ever after, that would be great but that is not happening. So in the mean time, we should count our lucky stars that we still have the right to defend our selves and mourn when tragedies like this happen and seek some justice for the perpetrator. Again, if we didn't have guns we would use rocks or clubs or arrows or swords or knives just as we humans have since, you guessed it, Cain slew Abel.
soulgruv
8/7/2009 10:36:41 PM
I heard that all of these killers drank 2% milk regularly. We should lynch the dairy farmers and local markets that furnished killers with the calcium rich cow juice.
jimmy
8/7/2009 9:20:19 PM
I don't see how TGSCOM can be held responsible for the heinous shootings in Pennsylvania, at VT, and NIU.
Why try to villain-ize this business owner. People's wrath should fall squarely on the sickos that commit these terrible acts.
I don't see anything wrong with selling hi-capacity magazines or magazine loading apparatus over the internet. Or firearms for that matter. I'm a lawful gun enthusiast. I have numerous hi-caps and I've never shot anyone.
It's a refrain but it is also true...guns don't kill people. People kill people.
I'm impressed that Mr. Thompson made a disclosure statement regarding the shootings by Cho Seung-Hui. He may have made others involving the other two shootings. According to the statement, TGSCOM followed the law in the weapons transaction. Cho Seung-Hui passed the background checks.
bobr
8/7/2009 7:31:04 PM
Although I prefer to buy my guns locally, for a number of reasons, I support you guys 100%.
yetanotherTGSCOMsponsoredshooting
8/7/2009 6:59:07 PM
Another murder due to TGSCOM's "business". How do they justify in their own minds what they've done? It's incomprehensible.
nice legacy
8/7/2009 4:51:13 PM
I bet this company is so proud of its legacy of making it easier for criminals to get guns and I am sure of murder count of into the 100's.
Fact no one has a need for an automatic weapon period. Fact you have the right to bear arms but not the right to get your hand on any gun available.
This bogus arguement that you are just taking the guns from honest citizens is making our streets, schools and gathering area less safe.
So keep your hunting guns, protect you house with normal fireams and lets get rid of the assalt rifles, automatic guns and the items that can only cause problems
GW
8/7/2009 2:14:50 PM
Since we are comparing cars to guns: Every car is supposed to be registered and the driver licensed, so shouldn't every gun be registered and every shooter licensed? HELL NO!
I'm an ardent supporter of the Second Amendment. I urge people to think things through before posting so as to not post something that can be turned around and used by the gun grabbers!
Car Chase
7/7/2009 10:28:20 AM
I watched another high speed car chase in California.The suspect was eventually stopped when he ran a red light and hit an innocent man driving his pickup. Luckily he was only slighly injured. How dare the car dealer sell that car to a criminal. Wake up america it time to outlaw all car sales. Just think with out cars criminals cannot drive to the gun store to purchase guns. Kpope licened ccw and lifetime NRA member.
Rob
2/17/2008 8:12:34 PM
...And what do you have to say for yourselves now that you have also sold merchandise to the killer at NIU? How do you guys get to sleep at night?? Some business you all have there. Haven't you considered for a moment that the notion of any freak being able to buy this stuff online is ludicrous? If you haven't you might as well go sell Meth as those folks don't have a conscious and can sleep just fine too... Think about it guys.
scottishhighlander
2/16/2008 4:01:26 PM
MY condolences go to the families in the trajic death of their loved ones.to stop these disturbed people before this happens;I think their family and friends should get these folks help or let people that can be alerted
Tyrell Washington
2/16/2008 2:58:14 PM
Right2know, your forget that the whitest state in the country is Vermont and the most african-americans live in Washington DC. That is a major source for the violence in DC and none in Vermont.
Right2Know
2/16/2008 11:48:50 AM
Someone doesn't go on a shooting rampage in a state that potentially everyone else could also be carrying a gun. Rather, when a state makes it easy by prohibiting concealed carry, they need not worry about having the tables turned on them since they know its safe for them to brandish a weapon.
Just try and imagine a hostage situation where any number of those people are carrying a gun. They wouldn't be hostages for long.
Right2Know
2/16/2008 10:54:45 AM
It has long been proven, although continually ignored, that states with the toughest gun laws have some of the highest rate of murders committed with a gun.
Right2Know
2/16/2008 10:54:12 AM
(cont.)
In comparison with Vermont, which has the least restrictive gun laws in the nation, and Washington D.C. which is of the toughest, the latest 2006 crimes per 100,000 people shows the murder rate in Burlington,VT to be 2.6 verses Washington,DC which was 29.1 (almost 10 times higher!). The national rate is 7 (still more than twice as high as Vermont).
In comparing Boston with Rutland in the use of a gun during the commission of a murder the results are even more apparent.
Boston, which has enacted the toughest gun laws in the nation, had 13.3 murders per 100,000 compared with the nation’s average of 7. And when you compare that with a large city in Vermont, such as Rutland, the results are even more surprising. There was not a single murder there (based on the final 2006 FBI Crime Statistics).
A Virginian
2/16/2008 10:13:43 AM
As an American, a Virginian, a friend, and family of Virginia Tech. Alumni, all I've got to say is... Wake the F*#@ up and quit your bitchin'. Realize that gun control will never go away until all Americans learn to speak up. Stop talking about it! Do something about it! The easiest thing to do is to support folks, like Ron Paul, who without a doubt has defended our Constitution and our Freedom. I know, actually getting out to vote for what we believe in is just too much...Hell, we obviously like typing. Write a letter to each Presidential Candidate and tell em' to stop the bullshit and leave us alone. BECAUSE WE ARE THE PEOPLE!
mtbikerjim
2/16/2008 10:04:53 AM
Our second amendment right to bear arms should never be taken away. I agree with the owner's comments. It is not guns that kill people but people kill people. A firearm needs to be respected and our people use the firearms on the market today will determine positive or negative outcomes.
Please do not blame the gun dealers. They are doing their jobs. Like any business, they are there to make a living too.
We all have to respect firearms. We shouldn't stop the sales of firearms , but maybe stricter gun control laws that would include tougher background that would result in looking into the history of any previous mental illnesses brought forth on to any individuals obtaining of firearms for the sole purpose of killing humans.....WE all have the right to protect selfs and that should never be taken away.
Rambosky
2/16/2008 9:36:26 AM
I am a Vietnam combat vetran and a former law inforcement officer. I presently work for a company that makes body armor for the police and military.
My family, friends and co-workers all support the posistion and statements that you have posted because it's reality.
Jim Stevens
2/16/2008 8:22:39 AM
Eric,
Perhaps you are right. If we were all arms we would not have this problem. If the student at NIU each had been carrying a gun, they could have shot it out with the gunman right there. Same thing at Virginia Tech. If everyone had a gun, the moment this nut job starts firing the good people like you and me who carry guns, could have unloaded our weapon on this fruitcake. Perhaps if we educate the public that if we all carry guns, we can prevent tragedies by allowing the good people to shoot down a crazy killer the moment he starts firing. THE SOLUTION IS EVERYONE NEEDS TO BE ARMED. This way we can all end conflicts like this on our streets without innocent lives being taken. If everyone was armed, we could stop crimes in progress too so it would provide an extra measure of security. Who knows maybe it will make the police's job easier. Thanks for protecting our right to bear arms.
Jim
stupid people do stupid things
2/16/2008 12:43:03 AM
without a site with this, the two major shootings at two college, it would have not happened, i think you should shut down the site!!
Glock32Owner
2/15/2008 11:56:51 PM
Eric,
First, it is a shame you should even have to apologize for the actions of criminals, but since we live in a world where nobody feels they are responsible for their own actions anymore, we shouldn't be surprised. I disagree with your characterization of these University murder incidents as "tragedys". I contend that a true tragedy results from something we have absolutely no control, or little control over. For instance a bus full of nuns and orphans goes over the cliff because the brakes went out. When someone commits pre-meditated murder, that is not a tragedy, its an unforgivable criminal act. I simply feel the word "tragedy" is overused by the media and politicians in a vailed attempt to make everyone feel better. These nutcases took weapons into "feel good" gun free zones and committed murder. The only solution to this problem is to abolish "gun free zones" and allow law abiding citizens who wish to, carry concealed handguns.
pro gun?
2/15/2008 11:42:39 PM
If the gun advocates on here cannot even spell correctly, why should we trust them with a gun?
John
2/15/2008 11:06:31 PM
Oh, and incidentally, two students armed with firearms PREVIOUSLY stopped a mass-murder in progress at the Appalachian Law School. Ignoring what LAW-ABIDING CITIZENS do with guns, the administrators at Virginia Tech (in the same state!!!) fought tooth and nail a bill that would've allowed the LAW-ABIDING Va Tech students, and other students in VA, to be able to defend themselves against people like Cho. And they crowed loudly with joy when they managed to shoot the bill down and maintain their defense-free victim zone. Cho's rampaging with impunity across the Va Tech campus was the sad, almost predictable result (ever notice what a high percentage of these rampages are in "gun-free" zones?) They got what they begged for. A defense-free victim zone... Then contrast that with what happened at New Life Church in Colorado. Honestly, the stupidity of some people is just breathtaking...
John
2/15/2008 11:00:59 PM
You "never read about how a firearm saved somebody's life" because the vast majority of the time, the media DOESN'T COVER THAT -- they only the occasions on which weapons are misused. If people like you had your way, it would still be a felony for an innocent woman to carry a firearm in my state to protect herself from her ex-boyfriend who's vowed to rape and kill her.
karma sucks
2/15/2008 10:28:20 PM
glad i'm me, and not you at tgscom. gotta be hard to sleep at night knowing that you caused so much tragedy in so many lives. never read about how one of your guns ever saved anyone's life and won't because they don't. sick to do what you do for money.
Jonathon
2/15/2008 10:03:59 PM
Fall of 2006, for message below. My mistake.
Jonathon
2/15/2008 9:01:01 PM
This is in response to the prior comment. The one who is armed has the power to protect life and to destroy it. Your life is sustained militarily through arms while, in theory, civilian affairs are supposed to carry on uneventfully within this protection.
The shooter at NIU was a Teaching Assistant in a class I had in the Fall of 2007 with Dr. Cappell called "Introduction to Quantitative Research Methods" where we talked about 'statistical anomolies.' To say an event is improbable is to admit that its occurrence is indeed possible, however statistically insignificant. Steven roamed around the classroom and helped to teach this concept to students.
Ironically, the action you deem as a statistical improbability was in fact carried out by a man that knew more about statistical improbabilities than you or I.
Therefore, a Concealed Carry Law would be beneficial for a minority of people who would have the power to react with return fire and help to protect the innocent.
tgscom supporter
2/15/2008 8:59:51 PM
The media's fingerpointing of tgscom is irresponsible and akin to smear campaign. When a murderer stabs someone to death, there's no article that says 'Walmart sold the knife that killed XYZ'. TGSCOM transfered firearm to local federal firearm license holder, and they in turn enforce the mandatory waiting period.
As for people who are anti-gun, know that statistics state that most people will have to deal with criminals in their lifetime. Feel free to look up statistics in your city as to how long it takes for police to get to you, before the criminal shoots/robs you in your own home. Know that your choice made you unable to protect your loved ones.
Ohio
2/15/2008 8:52:45 PM
All that can be done is to pray for you. After the killings at NIU were indirectly linked to you, one can only wonder how many others have been enbaled by your business
dj miknoche
2/15/2008 8:46:10 PM
I could never live in the USA (I live in Canada), knowing some of your crazy folks are allowed to buy powerful weapons to kill innocent people. And I don't agree that students should have the right to bear arms on campus, it's gonna become the "shoot'em up corral", with the confusion of cops and civilians, what a mess it's going to be the day you American civilians decide to take the law in your own hands. Anyway, I guess it will happen and that's the American way. I've visited the States and I enjoyed talking and visiting folks, really. I just wish you didn't have this fascination and obsession with guns. Anyway, good luck and take care.
Al
2/15/2008 8:24:10 PM
its a tough call ...and anything can be a weapon in the hands of a troubled individual .
bardi
2/15/2008 8:21:07 PM
It is pointless reasoning with any of you who support the gun madness in our society. I will only say this - One day you will all stand before Jesus Christ (the one who created all those who have been killed by your guns) and made to give an accounting of your lives. Sorry, but all you legal constitutional crap won't mean a thing to our creator.
Trish
2/15/2008 7:51:32 PM
Most of these arguments for gun ownership assume that people are constantly out for your money and possessions. Events like the ones at Virgina or Northern Illinois are statistically anomalous, meaning that they're so rare they carry little weight when considering what constitutes "normal" everyday experience. Which is to say that they can in no way be used rationally as an argument for concealed carry laws or anything else. You may as well also push for "lottery insurance" to protect against random influxes of cash.
Geoff
2/15/2008 7:33:03 PM
While your business maybe by law innocent of the crime, the fact that "madmen" can buy what they need to carryout their crimes makes your busimness questionable. The right to bear arms does not prevent the sane people in this world from enacting laws or cool down periods that minimze this type of behaviour. The internet is not a place to buy arms.
james
11/26/2007 3:15:57 AM
This is very sad.
The messages from the peoples republic are even sadder. All legal paper work was done, the government safeguards clearly failed. Everyone followed by the law (save the SOUTH KOREAN kid (note: a non-communist country, having nothing to do with chairman Mao ZeDong or Stalin, or Lenin, or Trotsky)). Not even the Chinese leaders (by standards of late these kids are fairly astute capitalists, and they have us by the balls with their foreign currency holdings). The U.S. government only needs to enforce the laws Federal laws on the books. This kid should have never been allowed a fire-arm in the first place. It's not your fault that fed background checks did not catch this. I wish you the best of luck.
P.S. where is my order (number 115487). All items were in stock when I placed the order.
Again, I hope it all works out in the end.
Thanks,
James
Citizen
10/17/2007 1:29:08 PM
If all Americans decided that to own a firearm is wrong they should also be prepared to give up their possessions, property, and freedom. The liberties we all so enjoy have been long guarded by good men and women of strong conviction and character who were and are willing to pick up that weapon and use it. Not only to defend their freedom but that of their fellow countrymen. Restriction of firearm sales and purchases is not the answer. If everyone owned a gun few would be so bold as to draw theirs against another. America would not be a free and civilized nation without firearms. The minute we let down our guard and fail in our civic duty the America we all dream of will cease to exist. If 1 of the students at VA Tech had been legally carrying a handgun the death toll might have been much lower.
2004R6
9/27/2007 7:58:55 PM
That statement is so true, the weapons aren't at fault it's the wacko's that are getting them. Also I believe that the "gun free zones" and magazine limitations are just a way to pacify the non-gun owners, so they can feel safe. Well it doesn't matter what a sign says if someone's intent on committing a crime they will. And 10 bullets are just as deadly as 15. Also as a concealed license holder in Texas, I was very shocked to see that several states that guns are produced in don't even have concealed permits available to citizens.
happy howard
7/12/2007 7:42:09 PM
It is getting increasingly unhappy with the public do gooders.They endorce guns to protect "NORTH AMERICA" BUT NOT INDIVIDAULS!We cannot go back as a Indian tribe in N.A.who did give up there arms,and whithin 15 years get overun by there neighbours.The common belief is and will always b "if you got it ,i wan't,if you are in my way ,I'LL DO YOU! IF THEY TAKE MY GUN PROTECTION AWAY I WILL FIND ANOTHER,BUT HEY I'AM A NON VIOLENT GOD FEARING PERSON,WHY AGGITATE ME?
Comrade_Kazimir
6/14/2007 4:34:11 AM
So in the end he died and was abandoned by his Comrades. But I leave with saying Capitalist is bad and Communism is better form of Government. Most you look at the glorious People's Republic Of China for an Example.
WORKERS OF THE WORLD UNITE! - Mao Ze Dong
Comrade_Kazimir
6/14/2007 4:33:50 AM
In Communist society there no worries of gun violence Cho himself was Communist he hated Capitalist. Capitalist must be destroyed from earth they are what are holding the working classes down you see this propaganda against Capitalists was what Cho saw he saw the rich people how they can get by this corrupt capitalist system with their wealth he saw the problem in America. Cho killed those people as a flag to look upon your Capitalists Imperialist System to rise up against your corrupt government and take power. Power for the people and start a new global revolution a Communist Revolution! But i must say Cho doing such by killing was not the best way to get the point of the revolution across. I have contacted Communist Party USA and they have said they have dishonorably removed Cho from the party.
Rocco
6/5/2007 10:02:06 PM
Making guns illegal, or any similar or additional ban is about as effective as making drugs illegal. I could go out right now and purchase some drugs, not that I would want to, but I could. WAIT A MINUTE! Are drugs not illegal? Why can I still get drugs? Because making something illegal does not make them NON-EXISTENT. We have a drug problem in this country... Criminalizing them has not helped. Now I am not an advocate of drugs by any means and in no way am I calling for their legalization, I am merely providing an example. Banning a certain thing REALLY does not help get rid of it.
k.kelley
6/5/2007 6:20:47 PM
Armed men are free men, unarmed men are subjects(of a king).
.........Mis-quoted from a historical figure
BARRY H.
6/2/2007 11:10:05 AM
GUNS DO NOT KILL PEOPLE. IT IS A SHAME THAT PEOPLE ARE TOO THICKHEADED TO EDUCATE THEMSELVES PROPERLY, WETHER IT BE STORAGE, PROPER SAFETY, LAWS, ETC. TO TRY TO ELIMINATE GUNS AND TO PUT EXTREME LAWS ADN RESTRICTIONS ON GOD FEARING LAW ABIDING CITIZENS IS TORALLY WRONG. LOOK AT OTHER COUNTRIES. THE CRIMINALS STILL SEEM TO GET GUNS. ALSO, TAKE TIME TO LOOK AT THE MUNICIPALITIES THAT DO HAVE PROPER GUN ORDINANCES AND CARRY LAWS... THE CRIME IS LESS. COME ON PEOPLE... EDUCATE YOURSELVES RATHER THAN SAY OH, ALL GUNS ARE BAD JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE IS CRAZY AND PERFORMS A SEVERE CRIMINAL ACT. I WAS VERY FORTUNATE TO GROW UP IN GUNNING, HUNTING FAMILY. TAUGHT RESPOSIBILITY USE, CARE ETC. HAD A SHOTGUN AND RIFLE SINCE ABOUT 8 YEARS OLD... WAS NOT ALLOWED TO "PLAY" ONLY USE FOR TARGET PRACTICE AND HUNTING WITH CONTROLLED ADULT SUPERVISION. I CAN ONLY PRAY THAT OUR LEADERS, (CURRENT AND FUTURE) UNDERSTAND OUR RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS, AND WHAT OUR PROUR NATION WAS FOUNDED ON.
DarkNite
5/27/2007 3:58:21 PM
You can't legislate against crazy. Fact is the shooter should have been in the data base for mental abberations. Wake up, it's the state's fault for not enforcing it's own laws. More gun laws only ham string honest citizens, and why pass more when the state's attorneys just let law breakers plea down to lesser charges? Where I live it takes the cops 45 minutes to get here. In the mean time a lot can happen, so I practice at the range and keep sharp, just to make sure I live through those 45 minutes.
My heart goes out to those who lost loved ones, and it is the survivors we should be concerned about, not some political agenda being used to grab votes from bleeding hearts. A good many of our leaders should be ashamed of themselves for proposing new restrictions before the smoke cleared, or the facts were known.
Va needs to enforce the laws they have, not add more red tape. The bad guys don't care about red tape, they can plea to a lesser charge.
Adam B. Central Illinois
5/26/2007 9:47:36 PM
I hate that bad people have to ruin our gun rights, the liberal jackass polititians. You cant blame the average American gun owners for that social perasite that committed that tragedy
Tim
5/26/2007 6:41:07 PM
AS I SEE ITS BEEN SAID MANY TIMES HERE GUNS ARE ONLY TOOLS THEY HAVE NO MIND OF THERE OWN MINE HAVE NEVER ESCAPED MY SAFE TO RUN ABOUT SHOOTING FOLKS AND WHERE DID THIS FANTASY OF THE POLICE BEING A PRIVATE SECURITY FORCE COME FROM I HAVE A NEIGHBOR THAT THINKS SHE DOESNT NEED A WEAPON CAUSE SHE WILL JUST CALL THE POLICE AS I HAVE EXPLAINED TO HER ALL THE POLICE WILL DO IS INVESTIGATE THE CRIME SCENE THAT USED TO BE YOUR HOME LETS WAKE UP PEOPLE AND START BEING THE INSTUMENTS OF OUR OWN PROTECTION GOD BLESS THE USA AND PRAY FOR THE VT FAMILIES
SICK OF IT
5/26/2007 6:02:06 AM
I would like to know if anyone could tell me? do these people who go after the gun owners and dealers also go after the companies that sell baseball bats, i mean they are used to commit murders,and, what about knife companies,also the people who make #2 pencils. I know the last one seems a little silly but if you work in jails or prisons you would know just how dangerous they can be. let a gun be used and the world stops. guns don't kill people,people kill people. it doesn't matter where the gun comes from it's the person who carries out the crime. so get off our backs and get the backs of the criminals.
N3ATS
5/24/2007 9:07:23 PM
As a gun owner, a concealed carry permit holder, hunter, and firearms enthusiast, I would like to express my appreciation on how you have handled this situation.
Thanks for being open about it, allowing debate, and for standing up and taking the high road.
You operated within the law. You followed the rules, and did everything by the "book". You have nothing to regret or be sorry for. I am sure the actions of Seung-Hui weighs heavy upon you heart, as it does any decent compassionate human being. Rest assured you have nothing to feel sorry about.
Know one could have known that this man would do what he did. Not me, you, and certainly not his victims. This is an unfortunate act that is certainly beyond the comprehension of everyone involved.
Keep up the good work, and take care.
Steve Weiss
New Providence, PA
Manners
5/20/2007 1:30:08 AM
I'm sincerly sorry for those that lost loved ones.
It was a mentally fouled up person that took their family and friends lives. The gun was just the instrument of the deed. Knowone blames, (or gives credit) to the hammer, for a poorly built, (or well built) house.
Live with a desire for a better world, and teach your children the importance of good character, personal integrity, and the courage it requires to choose good over evil. Want the right things, for the right reasons.
Keep guns loaded, clean and know how to use them. Protect
yourself, your family, your community, and your country.
God help us, become better.
Clay
5/17/2007 5:58:42 PM
I also would like to proudly state that this sick, messed up individual is to blame for this horrible act and not the weapon. If that big sticker on the doors that says no guns permitted on premises wasn't there I'm sure there would be some individual with conceal carry license would have stopped the shooter or at least lowered the amount killed. All gun control laws do is keep honest, law abiding citizens with their hands behind our back unable to stop those breaking the law and harming innocent people! Those who are going to break the law do not care about the laws or a sticker on a door that says "No Guns Allowed!" TGS I still PROUDLY support you. Only an idiot could blame you for what happened. Thanks
my random thoughts
5/12/2007 12:14:38 PM
its too bad some honest person was not breaking the law that day, by carrying his/her concealed firearm on campus, then Cho Seung Hui would not have become the next "hero" to the next lunatic. I'll bet that 50% of VT students are at least armed with pepper spray and knives these days.
after 9/11 i was ready to buy my first handgun, but never did. I was only a shotgun owner before. now after this VT tragedy im doing my research and about to purchase one. so terrorist, criminal, lunatic, and thug punk kid there is one more trained, armed, responsible citizen you'll have to deal with! we've got to just out number them!!
to the ignorant british who posted before, dont forget without help from us crazed armed "yanks", there would probably be a Nazi flag flying over the UK today, and then you'd wish you had some guns!!
Dogface...
5/10/2007 11:06:12 PM
Nobody holds car dealerships responsible when the idiotic, the insane, and the inebriated kill people with their cars. It's the same with firearms. Use them responsibly and nobody gets hurt. Cho had to get the weapon from somebody. I'm sorry you "won" that lottery. I myself am a gun owner. Regrettably, Wisconsin (my home as well as TGSCOM's) is one of only two states in the Union where there is no mechanism for law-abiding citizens to carry a concealed weapon. Like one of the posts noted, the cops have no duty to help you, so you'd better help yourself. God bless you and the victims at VT. And may God have mercy on the soul of the shooter. He was a broken and deranged human being.
JH
5/10/2007 6:23:29 PM
Everyone Keeps talking negatively about "liberals" and "hippies" on here. I am very left-wing and have a shaggy beard and love the Greatful Dead. That being said, I'm also a proud gun owner, and have a Carry-Concealed Licence. I practice my marksmanship, and know how to holster and store my weapon in a safe, responsible manner.
I would never draw my weapon with the intent of harming an innocent human being. But say I'm a VT student and CCW is allowed there. Seung-Cho comes into my class and starts shooting, I'm returning fire and his evil rampage is over. My pistol can hold 16+1, and I own 4 magazines. In a small classroom, I suspect it would only take me a few shots and he's done and the death toll is much, much smaller. Why? Because somebody (a liberal!) would have been using a gun in self-defense and the defense of others..
Solider
5/9/2007 2:28:43 PM
I am in serving in Iraq right now, been here for awhile. But I know that my girlfriend is at home safe, cause we have a gun in the house, and she has one that she carries with her. I hope to GOD that the time for her to use it never happens, but if it does I'd be damned if she is gonna be the victim. As for the VA shootings, it was so pre-mediated that nobody saw it coming, but if anyone just happened to be carrying today, the casualty count would have been alot lower. My prayers are with you & the families of those that lost their loved ones in VA. Also for those families whose son or daughter wont be coming home from Iraq. GO HOKIES/GOD BLESS THE USA
Tom
5/9/2007 1:12:49 PM
By the way, Dave, speaking of the Bible. it also says he who lives by the sword, shall die by the sword. I think this is Gods way of telling us it's okay to blow away the guy that's breaking into your house w/ a gun.
Tom
5/9/2007 1:09:01 PM
This is a response for Dave, who seems to think the manufacturer/seller of the weapon shares a degree of responsibility for the murder of anyone by the weapon they make or sell;
Shame on you, and grow the Hell up. Law abiding people buy guns that are maunufactured and sold for 100% DEFENSIVE REASONS. The lawful carrier of a weapon values life, and has made a very important, serious decision to take the responsibility to decide if, even if the chance of it happening is extremely remote, he may need to end a life that day, in order to save his own YOUR'S, or YOUR DAUGHTER'S, as she sit's in her classroom, ducking the shots, hoping the lunatic spraying bullets doesn't notice her.
Is it the drug company's fault the depressed teenager poured the bottle of pills down her throat?
Is it Budweiser's fault your Uncle Ralph got cirrhosis?
All this time, Ron Goldman's folks could have been suing Schrade Cutlery, and not O.J.
It was the guy, Dave. 100%. Period.
Detective Braun
5/9/2007 9:09:36 AM
911 is government sponsored dial-a-prayer. The first person you should look to to protect yourself is YOU.
Tim L. Starko
5/6/2007 10:59:59 PM
Cho was one sick human being, no one should have been killed. Let this be a lesson to those who think of doing this
motorhogman
5/6/2007 8:32:17 AM
The fact that this "green card" alien was able to purchase a gun legally is what bothers me. Why does VA law permit a person who is not an American to purcase any weapon, let alone a concealable one ? I have a CWP in SC yet VA does not recognize it but they have no issue selling to an alien...I think every law abiding American should think about the positive aspects of carrying a concealed weapon. How many people do you suppose that bastard would have shot if the whole room had a weapon on them ? My guess would not be 33. This fibre of this country is being slowly destroyed by politcians and the "protect me from myself" groups. They live in a make believe world where passing idiotic laws is the solution to everything.
Dee
5/5/2007 8:01:03 PM
I too believe it was NO FAULT on your Company's part to sell the 'crazed man' the gun. How are you too know if someone is to use a gun for that purpose!?! I am a gun owner and BELIEVE that it is our RIGHT to OWN AND PROTECT ourselves from others like that man or any others that may try to harm us or our families.
Thank You!
Dee
mjt
5/5/2007 8:31:47 AM
Firstly, as an Englishman let me apologise for the Idiot Brit who posted earlier - he was merely expressing his ignorance of the subject. The simple facts are that no gun ever killed anyone on its own - it is merely a tool which makes it much easier. Like nuclear weapons, the genie is out of the bottle, and you can never put it back in, which means that we need to arm to defend ourselves. It seems Ironic that Tony Blair banned handguns in the UK but was chomping at the bit to go to war in Iraq (using of course - guns!)
Go to Switzerland where everyone is required to have an automatic weapon at home and you don't have much gun crime. In England gun crime is on the increase - banning guns there ENSURED that only bad guys have guns.
I lived in the US for three years and carried a gun concealed most of the time, and felt much better for it. When I returned home the first thing I noticed was how dangerous the streets felt, and how helpless I was.
23c
5/4/2007 3:31:27 PM
to all of you fun and care giving hippies. should we also ban steak knives and chef knives, since many people that have passeed have been on the other end of this type of tragic murder. why cant we all just understand that vile human beings are the ones that create this type of evil and not pruducts that we create. im sorry that you feel that you are equal to a piece of machined piece of metal. if you think about it that is why people are put on trial not a gun, knife, bat, car, and many more objects that murder people everyday. i wonder what the answer would be, do you plead guilt or not guilty mr p22 or mr f250.
al vega
5/3/2007 11:12:10 PM
is there anyway possible we can all get together and get a new rule must be 24 or 26 years old to own a gun the mind is still to young still in college still thinking of party drugs and stupit desicions now way a college kid should have a gun i own 3 guns my self but im 33 years old family kids and im settle down yes we need guns to protect our family but lets get real 21 is to young is when drinking is leagal mix it with a gun and we will have more problems
why
5/2/2007 10:04:12 PM
School is a place for learning not dieing. Arm the teachers and staff.
Bad design
5/2/2007 10:01:04 PM
If you want to hold someone responsible other than the hospital that released Cho lets blame the architect that designed that room to have only two exits.
Will Smith
5/2/2007 9:58:26 PM
Gun free zones= easy victims. You can run all you want but you'll just die tired. fight fire with fire. Arm the staff and students. Give everyone a way of defending themselves with like force. When only one has a gun, then there were none. It's sad that no one was able to defend themselves and disable some little Korean with a .22 and a 9mm....just unbelievable and pretty pathetic.
psych ward patient
5/2/2007 9:53:40 PM
This is not a lesson to teach about gun control but rather the rules concerning the information from health care. If you check yourself into a mental health facility or are forcibly placed there because you have violent tendencies and are dangerous and violent you should not be allowed to purchase a handgun and the DOJ and BATF should be aware of these mentally unstable individuals past history.
Asian assasin
5/2/2007 9:42:04 PM
Cho is just one more example of the need for immigration reform. Less foreigners here wanting to kill us. Koreans, Russians, Chinese, middle easterners and such should not be allowed to purchase small arms.
warrior171
5/2/2007 9:37:03 PM
......This is still active today where the Constitution is actually suspended. Senate Report 93-549 1973, "The powers under these Statutes (3-9-1933), the President may: seize property; organize and control the means of production; seize commodities, assign military forces abroad; institute martial law; seize and control all transportation and communication; regulate the operation of private enterprise; restrict travel; and...control the lives of all American citizens." Research Congressman James Beck and his speech just prior to its approval. Congress nor the President are held to the Constitution, thus countless calculated court cases of interpretation geared in the Judicial Branch,,,, for a time of a new reinstitution constitution and it will be too late for you.
ARMNOW
warrior171
5/2/2007 9:36:29 PM
This is only the beginning people. They've already circled the wagon (the Constitution) and you're just catching headlines of an Ammendment dismantling from within said powers. March 4th, 1933 FDR inaugurated into office. March 9th 1933 Congress approved in special session, his proclomation 2038 that became known as the Act of March 9th, 1933: "Be enacted by the Senate and the House of Representatives of United States of America in Congress assembled, that the Congress hereby declares that a serious national emergency exists and that it is imperitively necessary speedily to put into effect remedies of uniform national application." continued......
Agile
5/2/2007 9:35:22 PM
This horrible event is just one more example where innocent people are losing there lives due to the inability to defend themselves. More guns in the hands of responsible people is the only way of preventing this from happening again. When guns become outlawed then only outlaws will have guns. The 2nd Amendment was written to insure that citizens have a means of defending themselves and their homes with equal force.
M1014
5/2/2007 9:28:45 PM
Concealed carry should be legal in all states: criminals would think twice before committing murder and those on a rampage could be stopped before others are killed.
As the late Vice President Hubert Humphrey put it, “The right of citizens to bear arms is just one more guarantee against arbitrary government, one more safeguard against the tyranny which now appears remote in America, but which historically has proved to be always possible.”
Those who beat their swords into plows, will plow the fields of those still with swords.
An armed man is a citizen, and unarmed man is a subject.
A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.” ~~ George Washington
coolheadluke
5/2/2007 4:53:04 PM
I have 1 question. How many people would have lived if that was not a "GUN-FREE ZONE?
coolheadluke
5/2/2007 4:49:51 PM
I feel that gun-free zones provide easy targets. The only people with weapons in those Zones are the ones that don't follow the laws. IF GUNS ARE OUTLAWED THEN ONLY OUTLAWS WILL HAVE GUNS. The outlaws will have the upper hand and create even easier targets. I will not be a easy taarget!!
I have a Brain
5/2/2007 3:23:10 PM
Erm, maybe if stupid fuckers such as yourself stopped selling guns then we wouldnt have weird fuckers such as the korean who shot up virginia tech?? would we?? or maybe we would?? who knows...2nd amendmant my arse!! Stupid yank fuckers!! Thinking you are the police of the world - you dont have a clue!! You have no idea!! you`ll get whats coming to you you fucking power crazed wankers - 9/11 all the way!! All the best - England!! xx
gunsluvver
5/1/2007 2:42:25 PM
Hey I'm groovin' on this from Mr Tomson: ...Supreme Court has ruled that the People do not have any expectation of protection from law enforcement and has upheld it several times since.
Been tryin' to put this together -- so what did the court say? What decision, what words? Want to work it all out, help!
Brooks
5/1/2007 1:30:08 PM
If any "blame" for this is to be placed on anyone it is to be placed on the one(s) that had the power to lock up Cho in a mental hospital and keep him locked up. Cho was clearly identified as one who was "a danger to himself and others" and showed all the signs of a psychopathic murderer. Because of this Cho was placed in a mental facility against his will for evaluation. A "judge" let him out and back into the public. If that judge would have committed Cho like it was very obvious at the time he should have, Cho would at least have on his record that he was not permitted to own a gun and would have been denied transfer and so possession of the guns he bought. Further, he might still be locked up in a mental hospital getting some sort of help and the massacre might never have been committed. The real focus should be on that judge, and other judges and "law makers" that have done, and continue to do, through their "permission", similar things.k
MyEagle15
4/30/2007 2:31:14 PM
Not only are the gun control lobby responsible for the Virginia Tech murders but I personally hold each and every one of them accountable for 9/11 too. If our duly sworn law enforcement officers had been carrying on those planes the mission would likely have been thwarted. The right to carry should also be extended to college students, instructors, and administrators so long as they are doing so legally. As a veteran public school teacher I must say that I do not feel safe knowing that our public schools are completely defenseless against such attacks. It is a ridiculous and completely irresponsible policy that should be changed. Mr. Thompson you did nothing wrong.
Wahoo
4/30/2007 8:39:07 AM
“Laws that forbid the carrying of arms . . . disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes . . . Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.”
-Thomas Jefferson
JasonVanDyke
4/29/2007 11:36:58 PM
Of course TopGlock is not to blame and I will continue to shop on their website. I am an attorney, I sometime need to travel to sketchy parts of town, and when I do I am glad that I have a gun with me.
chuck
4/29/2007 8:39:43 PM
Good day brother American. I find it sad that there are people in this fine country who feel it necessary to harrass honorable, legitimate businessmen such as yourself. Truly, the real tragedy here lies in the fact that this happened in a "gun free zone". The only thing safe about a gun free zone is the security it provides the crazy nutcases like the one at Virgina Tech. The real crime was committed when the government restricted when and where a person could carry a concealed firearm for protection. What about the rights of the students who were slaughtered? Shouldn't they have received the same benefits of the second ammendment like everyone else? It's not rocket science, the only way to ensure your own safety is to be prepared to protect yourself anywhere you travel. If just one of the slain students had a firearm, this tragedy would have had a very different ending.
Keep up the good work gentlemen, you folks do a wonderful job.
bill
4/29/2007 6:02:56 PM
Gun laws need to be "adjusted." Only U.S. citizens should be able to obtain a gun. And even if you checked yourself into a mental institution on an outpatient basis, you should be denied a weapon as well. However, at the end of the day, you can have as many laws as you want. Evil and sick people will still do bad things. If they do not care about a person's life, do you really think they care about laws? Which are nothing more than ink on paper! What really matters is how WE THE PEOPLE created a society which allowed guy like Cho to become filled with anger and hatred. Many picked on him, laughed at him. Yet few tried to help him? I am curious to know how many anti-gun people spend time and money helping the mentally ill? Evil and sickness helped cause this. Gun-free zones allowed the death toll to rise as high as it did. After-all, these law abiding citizens had their freedom(of choice) to defend themselves taken away.
NJ Shooter
4/29/2007 8:45:56 AM
I'm sorry but it appears the sale was legitiment. Do we blame the car manufactures or dealers if a nut buys a car and kills someone? How about the medical schools and hospitals that turn out, and allow quacks to practice medicine? And what was wrong with the students, afraid to protect them selves? Maybe they should bring their Mommies to class to protect them. An individules safety or lack thereof is that individules sole responsibility.
dave
4/29/2007 5:24:24 AM
Yes, the gun is only a tool- but what kind of tool is it? Yes the killer is a madman, but, it is logical to assign some, not all, yes, of the blame to the person that makes the tool. You get many letters of support from those who do not want to give up their tool, nor admit to themselves that their mentality is a violent one. The Bible said it all long ago- practice peace, throw away the violent tools-you can duck, weave, dodge thil you're blue in the face. If there are the ghosts of these gun victims- they will be haunting the ones who made the weapons as well as the madman-killer. And the makers will have to face their maker. You know that, but I can understand why you do not want to admit it.
BSP
4/28/2007 6:45:05 PM
Cho was a sick individual. We have the right to protect ourselves from a deranged madman thanks to the 2nd Ammendment. TGS is a legal and legit business. Hang in there Eric.
Nsite
4/28/2007 3:05:45 PM
Freedom comes at a price. Brave men had to fight for freedom in the U.S. Also , the west was tamed by the use of guns. People had to hunt for food. Firearms are at the root of our history. I know the means little to most people now.Today's the Tech. era , and most children don't even know the hardships their parents faced. I fear that the evil by which we will be undone, Is the lack of values and morals in todays youth. See the boys want to hold ganger rap lifestyle as a priority, *very sad.Thug-life becomes critical path for so many young men. My point is ,the hand in which the gun is held , make the difference in a crime or a "right-of-freedom".Please educate yourself on the First Amendment before responding.
bstabob
4/28/2007 9:58:21 AM
Yes, this is a tragedy by any definition. What made it a massacre was that this madman was the only one with a gun. I know its politically incorrect but its still a fact. I know that the media will completely overlook that fact but its a fact none the less. Stay strong.
Law-Abiding
4/28/2007 9:43:30 AM
Criminals pray on the weak. When was the last time you heard of a cop getting mugged? Even the rich liberal "elite" like Rosie O’Donnell, Michael Moore, Obama, Ted Kennedy all have private ARMED body guards. They all say they feel safer. Many rich folks have bodyguards who can afford them. Hey JR, the courts ruled in the early 80's that police departments cannot be held responsible for protecting their citizens. Translated...you're on your own. This great country is a melting pot and people sometimes don't get along, go crazy, etc. Maybe you should have been living in Louisiana after the hurricane. I'm sure some of those thugs would have given you a big hug. People have been murdered since the beginning of time. What's your plan for stopping rapes? Castration? Now swallow this big dose of reality and kiss that make-believe place you live in goodbye. Yes, I'm active duty military. Good day, sir.
Law-Abiding
4/28/2007 9:42:51 AM
You are wrong Chia-ampa. Have you not seen any of the video games out today? I played one as a kid years ago and the favorite weapon was a chainsaw. I stopped for fuel at a truck stop and they were selling a baseball bat called the "Tire Thumper" the advertisement said it would "thump just about anything when called up” followed by a smiley face. The NRA is nothing without its millions of law abiding gun owning citizens who make up that organization. Cho was an adult not a child so yes children should not have access to guns. 80% of the deaths in Iraq are from bombs and mortars not guns. Anti-gunners do not want to hear any these facts.
Ciampa
4/28/2007 8:55:09 AM
There are gaping holes in the logic of all of your overused NRA slogans. One slogan doesn't fit every situation. You may actually have to use your brain instead of regurgitating these one-liners. Let's start with the idea that if Cho didn't get his gun from a dealer he would have got it from the street. First of all that may be true, but the fact is he didn't get them from the street. Maybe we should put crack and heroin in school vending machines since kids are going to get them on the streets anyways. How about "Guns don't kill people..." arguement. Baseball bats, fetilizer and box cutters are not specifically designed to kill people, nor are they advertised for their stopping power or the number of times you could swing the bat at someones head. I may be wrong but I have also never seen a video games where people go on killing sprees with any of these tools. These tools are not glorified nor do they feed the moral downward spiral many here mentioned.
71mopar
4/28/2007 4:41:08 AM
This type of crime started only 40 or so years ago, just about the same time our society excellerated it's moral downward spiral. I'm not taliking about gang wars and that crap, I'm talking about these insane, hateful "loners" that snap and go on killing sprees. The guns have always been here. So where were all the school killing rampages before 1970? The core of our problem is these already unstable minds being nurtured and fed by a depraved entertainment industry and mainstream media. You disagree? Just remember these words 20 years from now.
Anyway, I will continue to support this company, from which I have purchaced 2 GLOCKS for personal defense. They've never sold me an insane, murderous handgun.
Brandon
4/28/2007 2:30:06 AM
If someone kills someone with a baseball bat, should we outlaw bats? If someone kills someone with a knife, should we outlaw cutlery? If someone kills someone with fertilizer-based explosives should we outlaw garden products? - Any person using reason and logic, instead of fear based emotion (usually born of the religious fanatics) would tell you "Of course not!" Again, its not the tool, its the person. And to quote a famous T-shirt from Billy Madison - "Guns don't kill people, I kill people." - Brandon
NeonScrew
4/28/2007 12:53:33 AM
First of all, My thoughts and prayers go out to the friends and family member of the Virginia Tech incident.
Let me also say that in my profession, Law Enforcement, I hear both sides of the gun argument from "Guns should be banned" to the "Everyone should have a gun."
Anyone who sends TGSCOM messages of hate need to realize that GUNS DO NOT KILL PEOPLE, PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE.
Think of this, would you have sent hate messages to Wal-Mart if the terrorists that participated in 9-11 purchased their box-cutters from a local Wal-Mart store?
Ciampa
4/27/2007 11:52:15 PM
"Ciampa is Daffy." I never said guns should be banned. As much as I don't trust our government, I don't think martial law is a good idea either. Knowing that anyone could have a gun doesn't make me feel safer. For example there are people like the ignorant racist who posted here by the handle "The Shooter," who unfortunately probably owns guns, that doesn't make me feel safer. I find any fanatic scary I don't care whether they're pro-gun nuts or anti-gun nuts. When you look at any issue as black or white, that's ignorance. I just think idiots who sell guns to idiots should be held accountable. All I am advocating is to be a little more selective and have a more involved process to gun ownership. How about a random check of the persons home to make sure they don't have stockpiles of weapons and hate mongering videos. Or 3 "Not a psycho" references from friends and family. Surely making guns less available to psychos would help minimize bad press for your beloved firearms.
FLORIDA CRACKER
4/27/2007 11:02:11 PM
4 EVER CUSTOMER. PRAYERS GO OUT TO THE FAMLIES OF VT.TGSCOM WELL TRAGIC HAS NO BLOOD ON THERE HANDS FROM THIS TRAGEDY.WE ALL WHO HAVE THE [SOUND MIND] AND RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS NEED TO GET OUT TO THE POLLS AND VOTE TO KEEP OUR FIRE ARMS.JOIN NRA JOIN STATE OR LOCAL FEDERATIONS SAY INVOLVED!!! THANK YOU FOR YOUR PROMPT SHIPPING!
Ciampa
4/27/2007 9:46:57 PM
We should nominate Mr Thompson for a Nobel Peace Prize for selling the gun used to kill so many kids, He is the real hero in all of this. Just another ordinary American doing extraodinary things. Next we should nominate the guy who calls himseld "the Shooter" who posted this lovely gem that makes any NRA member proud - - - Message From: The Shooter on 4/25/2007 8:58:01 PM. If the students were armed this tragedy would of had either had a lot less students killed or it may not of even happened. The Guns are not the problem, our system Failed! this Kim-Chee ass Mother F****er had Psychological problems that were clear signs not to sell this S.O.B. a gun in the first place. All Citizens should be taught how to protect themselves and how to respect a Gun, a Car is a weapon, and they kill a hell of a lot more than Guns do, why aren't the F****ing Liberal Commies trying to Ban them? - - - Makes me proud to be an American!!!
kjinhunk
4/27/2007 9:43:35 PM
Amen...
Brandon
4/27/2007 8:07:33 PM
It's never the tool, it's always the person.
It's that simple.
Brandon
jeepr
4/27/2007 7:38:39 PM
I fully support your company in this unfortunate incident. The law was followed to the letter.
cjeep21
4/27/2007 6:15:09 PM
Its not the gun that killed anyone! It was the sick, sick man behind it! Concealed to carry laws should be passed in every state! We have to protect ourselves! Most criminals get their weapons illegally! More gun control is not the answer! Let the citizens of the country protect themselves!
glockshooter35
4/27/2007 12:54:46 PM
How can anyone expect to stop a man thats willing to kill himself. The guns in this nation are not the proble just the people and the mind state in witch we live are. All we can do is fight with are votes in the next upcoming elections.
konepine
4/27/2007 11:08:05 AM
We need more sane people carrying guns to protect the general public like the Utah teachers that are allowed to carry. We also need a draft system so that every one spends time in the service so they can understand the thinking of the rest of the world who wants us dead !
jjcook28
4/27/2007 9:49:40 AM
I saw your interviews on tv, or the parts the media deemed acceptable for me to see. At the time I didn't realize it was Top Glock that they were talking about. I thought your comments were intelligent and were the best, if not only defense of legal gun owners after this tragedy. It is a shame the bleeding hearts will use this to further tighten the laws. I live in Illinois, and I think there were new laws in the legislature here the day after the incident. I will continue to support your great site, and hope this idiot's actions do not further affect your livelihood.
Liberty Tree Radio
4/27/2007 7:07:26 AM
"What people should be upset with is the schools lack of protection!" No they have guards in the dorms and most school even have a cop there when schools running. The problem is thes guard/officers are not willing to risk there lifes for the lifes of the kids. They are think more of there next pay check and there own life. There has not been one school shoting in the USA where a cop wasnt on the seen. But what did they do? Nothing.. Your life is in your owne hands you should be able to defend it with = or grater force then the preson or presons trying to take it. We shouldnt be foced to be good a good victim by the state or the gun controle nuts, its there falt no one in the school was armed and could fight back!
IBM
4/26/2007 11:53:40 PM
Terrorists, criminals, serial killers, and all kinds of perps. and predators attack the weak and defenseless. A sign outside a school " gun free school", dont make it safe.
I'ld venture into the thought of this nut case, or any other going into a police station, or a local gun club and doing the same thing? NO? WHY? Cuz, His actions would have resulted in an IMMEDIATE respose of self defense.
Demented, sick, unstable human beings target the defenseless, not the armed.
Anti- gun people claim the 2nd Amend. was placed due to the events of the time and NOT 2007. DANG, THIS IS THE TIME.
IBM
Skyline
4/26/2007 10:33:56 PM
Thoughts and prayers are with those families that lost people on that day. We can't blame a piece of metal for killing all those students and faculty. It is sad that people often resort to those measures. Its an old and overstated phrase but it applies in this situation: "Guns don't kill people, people kill people." I keep on thinking how different the situation would have been if a student was able to obtain a carrying permit. I am not saying that guns should be allowed on college campuses everywhere but I wonder how different the tragedy would have been if the students were armed also. Combat life threatening situations with no remorse, not sanctions. Food for thought...
golden crow
4/26/2007 10:22:23 PM
i hope our government does not blame in you any way u did absolutley nothing wrong. it was a crazy who did this not topglock
The Year 1764
4/26/2007 9:19:46 PM
A quote from a criminologist in 1764.
"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms. . . disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. . . Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." -- Jefferson`s "Commonplace Book," 1774-1776, quoting from On Crimes and Punishment, by criminologist Cesare Beccaria, 1764
Sad Fact
4/26/2007 9:11:53 PM
When I was in college my best friend's sister was killed by her boyfriend. He hit her in the head with a hammer. The local newspaper called it a "tragedy" but never mentioned the store where he bought the hammer or the name of the manufacturer. In this case, if the nut had used a gun rather than hammer...… the reaction would have been completely different. Sadly, same result.
fastboatsailor
4/26/2007 8:47:00 PM
Law abiding citizens have the right to protect themselves and their property...and the Second Ammendment guarentees them the right to do so with a firearm. Cho, up until his senseless shooting of students and staff at Virginia Tech, was a law abiding citizen who lawfully purchased a handgun after meeting all the requirements imposed by our government. To now use this tragedy as a means to reignite gun control debates would only damage the reputation of the "gun grabber" and trivialize the lose of life at Virginia Tech. Also, attempting to place any of the blame for this tragedy on the firearms dealers makes as much sense as imposing prohibition to eradicate drunken driving, banning the sale of tobacco to stop lung cancer or making it illegal to consume more than 2000 calories a day to stem the rise of health care costs (all of which individually take more lives annually than shootings)!
dd
4/26/2007 8:24:50 PM
like blameing the pencil cause i failed the test......
K75RT
4/26/2007 6:38:07 PM
You folks have done nothing wrong. You sold a legal product to a consumer who ultimately used it to commit a terrible act. Holding you responsible would be akin to holding Ford, GM, Chryser, etc responsible for a consumer using an automobile as the weapon in a DUI death. Ultimately, we are responsible for our own protection, Thank you for you goods and services. K75RT
GLOCK CARRIER
4/26/2007 3:25:45 PM
Sir It took a great deal of courage for you to go public about the recnt school shooting. I was also sickened by what this idiot did on that Monday morning. After it was revealed that the gunman used a GLOCK, my wife stated "They need to Stop making those Guns" I corrected her and explained to her that GUNS dont kill people, and the gun manufactures cannot be held responsible for actions of someone else. I also explained to her that he did meet all requirements to purchase the weapons, and a GLOCK was not the only weapon used in the killings. I say continue to do the outstanding job you've been doing. Im the proud owner of two GLOCKS and I dont leave home without them...
oldmogse
4/26/2007 3:11:42 PM
to SURESHOT866 what about the clombian high school killer's they were citizen's you make no sense you can't blame every resident green card holeder of america for this crime you also have resident green card people who are fighting a war for our country here in iraq and afgahistan and are dying also and you had that creep waco texas but i do agree with you that there should be a better background check up for those demented animal's who have mental issue's like this demon and that hospital who released this creep should be blammed for this for not reporting it in a background check up
FastEddie
4/26/2007 2:38:40 PM
VT is just another example of how stupid gun free zones are. My heart goes out to the families affected and I thank Eric from topglock for being standup and representing the facts.
oldmogse
4/26/2007 2:34:31 PM
hi there i think that not everybody you sale a gun to is a madman like this poor exuse for human that has been loseing his brain cells who's at fault for this the mental instatuion for not locking up this animal in padded walls for a while and if guns were banned from buying you would still have crazy jerk doing all kind's of crazy junk like you see gang member's with high power guns like ak-47 mac-10 now how the world do this creeps obtain this weapons is a good ? now what if a student had gun also in his car he or she would have stoped this demon from his evil way's so yes the mental hospital he was is in should be blammed for this killing of 32 innocent soul's for not really examing this object of disater's brain
Mike M.
4/26/2007 2:12:54 PM
If guns are banned, only criminals will have guns. How many times have you heard that?
It's evident that the firearm ban on the VT campus prevented students from protecting themselves. Only the criminal that killed them had a weapon!
This only proves beyond a shadow of a doubt the truth of the above statement. Don't let them take our firearms away, or we will all be unable to protect ourselves!
sureshot866
4/26/2007 2:03:35 PM
The right to bear arms applies to American Citizens. Cho was not a American citizen and therefore should have been denied the right to bear arms in the first place, not to mention that the medical information should have been reported and picked up on his background check. If any laws are to be changed or enacted it should be that only American Citizens have the right given to us by the 2nd Amendment.
No Pacifist
4/26/2007 12:53:12 PM
Gun Contol is not going to solve anything. Carrying a gun wasn't allowed at Va tech anyhow but it didn't stop Cho. The only people it stopped were the law abiding citizens who could have responded to the rampage if only they had been allowed to carry. This is not a case for gun control but yet another case of our government and education system failing us. Va tech was already strict on guns. Nothing would have stopped Cho and his determination to kill except the determination of those being shot at and desiring to survive. Stricter gun laws is not going to stop people like Cho. A sick man who is set on destruction is going to go through with his plan. American citizens should be armed and prepared to deal with these people.
ON TARGET
4/26/2007 12:43:26 PM
IT IS A CRYING SHAME THAT THE PUBLIC WANTS TO POINT THE FINGER.WHAT THEY SHOULD BE LOOKING AT IS WHY DID THE COLLEDGE PUT UP WITH HIS LACK OF COOPERATION AND APPARENT BAD ATTITUDE.MONEY.SCHOLARSHIP MONEY.THATS WHY NOTHING WAS DONE TO PREVENT THIS TRAGIC EVENT.WHEN PROFESSORS ARE IN FEAR FOR THEMSELVES FROM A STUDENT,THIS SHOULD BE A LARGE RED FLAG.HE HAD OTHER LEAGAL PROBLEMS THERE WITH STALKING OF TWO DIFFERENT STUDENTS,WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO OPEN THE EYES OF THESE PEOPLE.JUST LIKE INTERSECTIONS WHICH NEED RED LIGHTS,IT TAKES A NUMBER OF PEOPLE TO BE KILLED AT SAID INTERSECTION BEFORE A LIGHT GOES UP.HAS HUMAN LIFE BECOME SO SECOUND PLACE THAT IT TAKES DEATH BEFORE ANYTYPE OF PREVENTION IS DONE.PEOPLE WAKE UP AND SEE WHAT IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU.LIFE IS PRECIOUS,IT MUST BE PROTECTED,BEFORE THE LAW ABIDING CITIZEN IS EXTINCT.I AM A LICENSED CCW CARRING CITIZEN,HAVE DONE MY TIME PROTECTING OUR RIGHTS,PEOPLE OPEN YOUR EYES AND SEE.GUNS DON'T KILL.PEOPLE KILL.
scotty
4/26/2007 11:50:11 AM
I think purchase of weapons were legal;the signs of his mental state was evident to people in charge;they dropped the ball.Anti gun advocates are ultimately to blame!If legal carry was available with teachers and students that could carry legally would have been in place,I am postive the outcome would have been different!!The parents should of been aware of his mental state also.The gun was purchased legally and definetly wasn't the problem!!Legal carry will slow crime rate more than anything.license of ccw should not be made public.thank you
Chris A
4/26/2007 11:43:22 AM
Eric: thanks for your transparency and clearsightedness in representing the rights of gun owners in this situation---you're a model to be emulated as a spokesperson: calm, reasonable, and firm.
Just the Facts.
4/26/2007 11:12:25 AM
Eric could not be anymore truthful in his write up. The fact of the matter is the NICS system is broken due to all the medical privacy laws that have been put in place. Fact, The sloppy recording and sharing of records that show mental problems/illness is the one reason this mad man in Va. could carry out his deadly deed. Fact, no amount of "feel good" gun legislation will keep you "safer". Fact, the only person you can depend on to keep yourself safe from violent criminals is yourself, fight or flight is what nature is built upon follow your instincts.
nxner
4/26/2007 11:05:19 AM
i am a law abiding gun owner / collector.
apparently, we should blame our TV sets for the garbage the media releases ... correct?
thanks & the best to you.
Tom
4/26/2007 10:55:27 AM
The politicians that made sure that no students or professors in that school were armed are partially to blame for the extent of the killings of Cho.
t.j.
4/26/2007 10:47:27 AM
i'm sorry this person bought his weapon from top glock but in reality he could have bought it just about anywhere, on the street or in a store. the problem with gun laws are they are in place but 'not' inforced. we as americans have the right to protect ourselves and no politition will tell me that i can't. here's a fact america refuses to understand, isreal had a problem with school shootings until they armed their teachers and some students, after this, the school shootings stopped. the fact is you will never disarm everyone, your only choice is to arm and protect yourself, i wonder how many more people will have to die before we here in the u.s. accept this fact.
Professor Bones
4/26/2007 10:45:33 AM
I'll be honest, I consider myself to be reasonably liberal on many social issues. I don't care what people do in the provacy of their own homes, nor what their skin color, ethnicity or religious beliefs are. I am a gun-carrying college professor. My father was a Marine, 2 uncles were Navy, and I tried to enlist when I was 18 (bad knees--even the AIR FORCE turned me down)and I learned to use a firearm when I was about 7 years old. I have always owned firearms, and am a firm believer in my right to defend myself and others. Gun control NEVER WORKS! It merely encourages those who break the law to be bolder in their acts. I do believe that anyone who wishes to use and carry a firearm should be thoroughly trained and made to understand the RESPONSIBILITY that goes with carrying a deadly weapon, but let us not go crazy and say all guns are bad and make new (usually idiotic) laws to restrict the ownership of guns.
Charles, Columbus, GA
4/26/2007 10:44:54 AM
Here it goes again, because too many people have not yet understood: If you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have them.
There is a very SICK trend among utopian idealists to blame everyone except the ones actually at fault. Get real, and get a gun. Don't be afraid, but be alert and be prepared. God bless everyone.
Bill
4/26/2007 10:35:00 AM
There is always someone that will try to blame law abiding gun owners and dealers for the acts of criminals. Perhaps if one or more of the other students had a weapon for self defense, many lives could have been saved. Beware of the anti-gun crusaders that will try to force their will on good citizens.
Shane from Arizona
4/26/2007 10:18:55 AM
TGSCOM stand strong. People don’t take into account that if one person carrying a handgun legally could have stopped the needless killings. Making guns not allowed on campus only gave the gunman the advantage. It is easy to fire a weapon on innocent people when no one is firing back. Increased gun laws only give the criminals the advantage. People need to stop relying on Police and Laws to keep them safe. I have a concealed weapon permit that I obtained legally. I carry my weapon everywhere I go. So does my wife and the rest of my family. People need to learn to protect themselves. I have purchased numerous items from your website and will continue to do so. I give you my support completely. Thank you, Shane
IGERJC
4/26/2007 9:41:11 AM
The gun dealer and the law abiding gun owners should not be held accountable and be made to feel guilty as to what that SICK guy did. What I personnally think is that they should make a law that requires for people to be able to buy a gun should have PSYCHIATRIC CLEARANCE first. i know it is an extra burden/ monetary and time... but in light of this incident, the clearances required ARE not enough FOR THOSE WACCOS because it is PASSIVE on the part of the would be buyer. i also know this is not a foolproof deterent but it could possibly have averted this VT massacre.
Mark
4/26/2007 9:40:43 AM
Blaming you guys is like blaming misspelled words on the pen !
Joe
4/26/2007 9:33:20 AM
Quick question...How was he stopped? Let me guess someone shot him. Police can't be there all the time and it's unfair to expect them to be. No one will mention that he used the same tool the police did, but they used it in the right way, he did not. My prayers with VA Tech.
John from Atlanta
4/26/2007 9:13:09 AM
The media keeps mentioning how he bought the gun legally. Of course they make no mention of the fact that he broke the law even carrying it on to campus. Let's say he got caught before the shootings then he would of never been able to purchase another gun, legally. I carry and I go to college, not at the sametime of course, because I don't want to lose my right to carry (or go to jail), but I sure wish I could so I could defend my self. I just wish politicians would understand that gun laws only hurt the people who bother following them.
Mark
4/26/2007 8:55:40 AM
Sorry you receiving such heat. We have come to expect things like that now. Notice the irony: the people who most profess to hate violence are the ones who are sending you offensive, violent emails.
And it bears repeating: "Quemadmodum gladius neminem occidit, occidentis telum est."
Latin: "A sword never kills anybody; it is a tool in the killer's hand."
Seneca
Strange how many people don't get this simple logic.
I have done business with you before and will continue to in the future.
Allen aka 45acp
4/26/2007 8:53:01 AM
It is extremely important that we, as dealers and owners of firearms, maintain a proper attitude toward our liberal constituents. We should support everyone involved in this tragedy. We must also point out the facts to those that would destroy our industry.
We all know that the gun grabbers will try and use it to their advantage, to eliminate firearms in our country. This has always been the case. As long as we can counter their arguments with the truth, in a civilized exchange, they will fail.----Good luck TGSCOM.--- We stand with you, and support you any way we can. Only by standing together can we defeat the socialist that would destroy our country.
A Tennessee American
4/26/2007 8:48:06 AM
I feel badly that TGSCOM, Inc. finds itself in such an awkward position because of the actions of a mentally ill person. The people at TGSCOM, Inc. are true Americans conducting a legal business which provides firearms and supplies for both sport and personal protection. I have conducted transactions with them before and will readily do so again when the need arises.
I pledge to always voice my opposition to any legislation that would restrict or take away my rights to own and legally carry a handgun. I accept responsibility for the safety of my family and myself.
airman24
4/26/2007 8:37:17 AM
When guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns. My prayers are with the families and friends of all the victims and injured at Virgina Tech. I do however feel that neither stricter gun laws, or penalities for either TopGlock or the FFL holder should be given. Good luck and thank you for the service you provide all fellow glock enthusiasts.
Threeshot
4/26/2007 8:26:03 AM
Only someone who wants to be taken advantage of walks around these days without at least a 40 cal. or 45 cal strapped on his side.
Threeshot out.
bill
4/26/2007 8:17:10 AM
Keep the faith, the press and politictions seem to have forgotten the silent majority and complete truth again.....
tims72
4/26/2007 7:53:42 AM
We all mourn the death of so many young people. Concurrently, we all mourn the assault it will bring on our Freedoms. For some reason we've allowed the concept of "freedom isn't free" to simply mean that we may occasionally send troops somewhere to fight in some war-like event. One might consider that even on our homeland there is a cost to freedom. None of us are guaranteed a life to enjoy the freedom provided by the sacrifices of others. As citizens of a country blessed in so many ways, part of our birthright is the obligation to maintain and advance the liberty we inherited. To deny this responsibility is to make light of hundreds of years of human struggle and countless ultimate sacrifices, and is akin to surrender. While remembering the lives cut short do not forget the fact that these students though given little choice, died in defense of a Constitutional Freedom paid for long ago. We owe them and those who came before our very best defense of the Second Amendment.
China man
4/26/2007 7:37:02 AM
It is interesting that the people who blame gun manufacturers for gun related deaths do not blame Ford or others for automobile deaths.
Cho lied on the forms to buy the guns he used. The questions regarding mental conditions would have disqualified him at the dealer if he had been truthful. The press has totally disregarded that aspect of his purchases. Don't blame the gun dealer because medical information was withheld and protected by law.
Francis Elliott
Pineville, LA
"Doc" Martin
4/26/2007 7:32:40 AM
One thing that people must accept is that we as a society today are no different than our great grandparents were 150 years ago. They had weapons on the old frontier to defend themselves and their families. Everyone does not have the luxury of a bodyguard or a police officer to protect them from the hostile world today. It is not a happy world as some like to think it is. "GUN FREE" zones are just another one of those little things that are suppost to make you feel good but could get you killed. People like this mass murderer are people of opportunity same as muggers, rapist, robbers, Etc. What if some of those Students Had their guns with them. I still carry my Glock for that reason. Thank You "Doc"
MacRichard
4/26/2007 6:38:25 AM
It is to bad that you were unable to provide a firearm to that Isreali Professor. Had he been in possession of one, He might have been able to save many lives.
Thanks you and try not to blame yourself.
Mongo
4/26/2007 5:32:19 AM
Eric,
Just a note to let you know that honest, good people cannot be held responsible for actions of madmen.
It is sad that many of the needless deaths at VT might have been stopped by just one person who was carrying. Just one.
Unfortunately, you and the Virginia gun dealer will be held up to ridicule by the Socialist Mainstream Media.
Keep the faith. We are with you.
Wind Draft
4/26/2007 4:29:12 AM
Banning guns WILL NOT HELP.. It just mean that LAW ABIDDING CITIZEN will not be able to defend their families.
The real problem is "how come the psychiatric did not inform NICS" or why is there not any database for that type of information. A database that let NICS or license gun dealer know who is not capable of own or buying guns.
Had there been some sort of system that allow the doctors to say yes this guy this mentally ill and cannot own or buy any weapons or firearm; then there would have not been anything killing. Then again he might have used knives and hurt people in other ways... Let's ban all weapons then. Geez
Kroner
4/26/2007 1:28:36 AM
The only thing gun control laws do is take guns from the hands of LAW ABIDING CITIZENS! There is no way to keep people from carrying out their murderous intent, other than protecting YOURSELF.
You guys have done everything right...keep your heads up and hang in there!
rich uncle skeleton
4/26/2007 1:27:28 AM
People who see no point in owning a weapon have never had the lives of their family threatened, or they would feel differently. I have personally used a pistol to stop an attack on myself and my infant son. I hate to think what could have happened because the police were nowhere to be found.
mr_whit
4/26/2007 12:51:35 AM
I listened to a raido show the day after this shooting. A congressman was interviewed who was from Texas. This congressman stated "this type of mass shootings will never happen in Texas. You see, we can all carry guns in Texas. In Texas we protect ourselves".
Kootenai
4/26/2007 12:45:03 AM
More Guns Equal Less Crime! That is as simple as it gets folks!
"Give Me Liberty or Give Me Death"
Andrew
4/25/2007 11:53:21 PM
Click on this link and WATCH THE VIDEO! YOU WONT BELIEVE YOUR EYES!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-taU9d26wT4
Consider this:
1.) The state with the highest gun crime: CALIFORNIA
2.) The city with the highest murder rate: WASHINGTON DC
3.) The city that has 200lb.+ peice of sh*t "police" body-slamming a 100lb. OLD LADY in an effort to take all guns from the residences during Katrina: NEW ORLEANS
THEY ALL HAVE THE MOST GUN LAWS TOO!! Intresting.....
Khan
4/25/2007 11:46:01 PM
It is really very unfortunate and extremely SAD that this incident took place and so many people lost their lives only becuause of one SICK MIND! The only person to be blamed for this is the person who opened fire on innocent people. TopGlock should NOT be blamed for this as so many people buy guns just to protect their families and other innocent people. What if that SICK guy had used a car, a knife or a baseball bat to waste human lives? Would people be against these products??? or against that specific company which sold that car/knife/baseball bat to him? It would be really stupid to blame TopGlock for this incident. All of my support is with TopGlock. skhan4u2@yahoo.com.
Andrew
4/25/2007 11:23:47 PM
READ THIS ONE ALL THE WAY TO THE BOTTOM!
Liberals will always say their main concern is saving lives, but ask them: "What about cigarettes?". They kill more people than all other drugs, diseases & crimes COMBINED. Now,they will always reply"That is not the same;as the individual is hurting only themselves,where a gunman can inflict death on others". Then ask the CLINCHER:"What about drunk driving & alcohol?". That takes 2X the lives guns ever do. A person can drink, get in a vehicle & kill many people just the same as a gun & it happens EVERYDAY. Do liberals seek to make alcohol illegal? "No" the liberal will say, because people have the right to drink & they can do it responsibly & make their own decisions. GUN OWNERS HAVE THE RIGHT TO PROTECT THEMSELVES, IT'S IN THE CONSTITUTION!,& we are capable of making decisions ourselves & using guns responsibly as we have for CENTURIES! DAMN, will liberals ever get a clue!
TS
4/25/2007 10:27:55 PM
Top Glock to the best of my knowledge has broken no law. They like other Retailers provide products and services at reasonable prices. The media takes advantage of a crime committed by a deranged individual and spins it to be depicted as an anti gun issue. I am also extremely sorry about the Virginia Tech shootings but lets keep our focus on the person that pulled the trigger and not the company that legally sold the firearm. Remember, we live in America where the law should prevail.
RETIRED
4/25/2007 10:14:32 PM
I am a retired law enforcement officer, which means I am exempt from all local and state laws regarding concealed carry. I can carry concealed anytime and anywhere except where prohibited by Federal Law. I would be much more comfortable if this same rule applied to all CCW holders. We would all be safer. As all law enforcement officers know, we respond to a crime AFTER its happened. CCW reduces and stops crime. My prayers are with all VT families.
SCT
4/25/2007 9:55:34 PM
As a long time customer and police officer, I offer my support. I feel you did nothing wrong. You have no way of knowing what a customer wants with a product. You have to assume his intentions are legal and follow the proper procedures. It sounds like you did everything you were supposed to do.
TSDMaster
4/25/2007 9:34:24 PM
When are we as a society going to hold PEOPLE accountable for their actions? People kill, people rape, people steal. Guns, cars, knives, they are inanimate objects, they are tools and can be used for legal or illegal purposes. It is the person using the tool that makes the decision.
You are a business man who operates within the law, the situation sucks, but you have done nothing wrong. Keep your chin up, many of us are grateful for the service you provide.
The Shooter
4/25/2007 8:58:01 PM
If the students were armed this tragedy would of had either had a lot less students killed or it may not of even happened. The Guns are not the problem, our system Failed! this Kim-Chee ass Mother F****er had Psychological problems that were clear signs not to sell this S.O.B. a gun in the first place. All Citizens should be taught how to protect themselves and how to respect a Gun, a Car is a weapon, and they kill a hell of a lot more than Guns do, why aren't the F****ing Liberal Commies trying to Ban them? A old man a couple years ago ran over a bunch of people at a Farmers Market in Santa Monica aka Liberal-Commie Monica, they did'nt try to ban Cars there, so what is their beef about Guns? And if Cho the Bozo wanted to kill and did'nt have a gun, then maybe he would have locked all the doors with chains and set the place on fire and burn all of the students instead? or Bombs perhaps?
--The Shooter
Nick
4/25/2007 8:54:15 PM
Mass murderers agree...Gun control works! Fact: 56 million people murdered by their own governments in the 20th century.
Matthew-Honolulu
4/25/2007 8:36:52 PM
Uneducated people who knows nothing about firearms should think about this one.
An automobile is a million times more dangerous than any WEAPON on the face of this earth. It takes far more concentration,coordination,awareness and judgement to operate. You also have a million more moving parts that could or will malfunction at any given moment that can cost lives. It still would have been a violent tragedy if that asshole drove into a crowd of VT students. Would Goodyear have been in the hot seat because a student got ran over by their tire? W A K E U P you uneducated idiots!
wolfeden
4/25/2007 8:36:31 PM
I also was unaware of the 22 being bought from TGSCOM. How many stories could you post of weapons you have sold that helped save lives??? Many Im sure.It was a tragic event but, as Ford is not responsible when a drunk kills with their cars.... We stand with you and appreciate your company... as an aside.. I don't think he should have been allowed (as a foreigner) to purchase. I think the influx of 20,000,000 Mexicans will also create problems.
The Fireman
4/25/2007 7:55:34 PM
You're absolutely right. The Gun Control nuts will definitely have a field day with this.
Remember one thing! You're supposed to be a mind reader and you blew it!
Rob
4/25/2007 7:46:57 PM
"We’ve set up this page so that our message is available to the public regarding our sale of a Walther P22 to Cho Seung-Hui. As we fully expect members of the media and politicians to turn this horrible tragedy into a gun control debate, we need to make the facts available and make sure that our message is clear."
You are so correct. The liberals will do what ever they can to force their agenda, disarmament of the populace. This is the first step towards complete government control and a communist state. This is why I am currently buying up guns now before they are banned. Of course the real issue, why was this deranged commie in this country in the first place, has been completely ignored. The whole lot of these freaks should be shown the door.
joe4702
4/25/2007 7:42:07 PM
You have my full support. You did absolutely nothing wrong. Thanks for standing strong on the Second Amendment in the face of negative publicity from the media. Take care.
agape
4/25/2007 7:26:15 PM
These so call gun free zones have created a monster. I believe if someone there would have had a gun things would have turned out much different. Can't they see this is where the crazies go... where there are no guns aloud. We must protect ourselves and our family, no one else will. Thank you for keeping up the fight for freedom!
Tom from TN
4/25/2007 7:23:55 PM
I had no idea that TGSCOM had anything to do with this tragedy. Now that I know this, I have decided to give even MORE of my business to TGSCOM. My first priority will always be to support my local gun dealer; but all honest, law-abiding defenders of the 2nd Amendment deserve our business.
beretta-m9
4/25/2007 7:11:58 PM
Criminals and those with criminal intent do not obey the law. Why can't the gun grabbing Brady Bunch grasp this concept? Virginia Tech was and still is a micro-environment of helplessness. So called "gun-free" zones are only gun-free until a psycho decides to show up with a pistol. What are they gonna do to fix this? Frisk everyone who steps on campus? Run everyone through a metal detector before they enter a dorm or lecture hall? Why don't we just turn all our universities into high-security prisons while we're at it? Oh yea that's right, even in prisons the bad guys still manage to make weapons! Hello you gunphobic dummies out there, the bad guys will ALWAYS have weapons (read: ALWAYS)!!! And because of this, it is your duty to protect yourself and your family and your friends with the best equipment possible.
thw
4/25/2007 7:10:06 PM
No one can predict behavior in any individual.
He complied with all the requirements and so did you.
It is a shame but it will happen, with a gun, an axe or whatever.
I believe in the right to defend yourself and consider that right to be part of living in a free country. England,Canada, and Australia are not free countries.
There was a pole on MSNBC and one of the other stations. They did not show it because it was over 80 percent when I voted to have no more gun laws and enforce what we have.
US ARMY (Ret)
Pharaoh Bender
4/25/2007 7:06:01 PM
Honda owes me an apology as it was an Accord that was driven by a drunk driver that killed my best friend 10 years ago.
Does that make any sense? My blame is directed at the driver, as all blame must be placed on the killer. I wish you and your organization nothing but the best from here in Ohio.
DVC,
Pharaoh B
DDF
4/25/2007 7:02:35 PM
I do not believe that restricting the rights of law abiding and sane gun owners would have prevented this terrible tragedy or many of the other gun crimes that occur each year. Being a legal gun owner actually makes one more likely to continue following the law (just my opinion)
However, I do have a problem with some of the comments posted:
I think any comparison between 2nd Amendment righst and what Imus said are insensitive and foolish. No,our1st Amendment rights should not give any one the right to undeserevdly harm someone with words just the same that 2nd Amendment rights do not allow one to harm someone undeservedly with a weapon.
Also, this is not an immigration issue. Were the students at Columbine immigrants? Let's focus on the real issue here-- this kid had mental problems that should have rightfully shown up in a background check.
A normal guy
4/25/2007 7:01:44 PM
The focus should be on the victims of this evil act (b/c that's what it was) and not the law. For the Left to turn this into their fight shows that to them everything is a means to their end.
One other point, why does the Left want to restrict a specific right enumerated in our Constitution, but then claim a "right" to abortion, which is the purposful ending of a human life/being? That defies logic.
Bryan
4/25/2007 6:44:44 PM
We need weapons. We need CCW. I think you should send this letter that I read to the Green Bay Press Gazette. I hammer 2A every week to Doyle, Kagen and Feingold.
Join us at www.tednugent.com and join TalkBack.
Thanks, Bryan.
Bubba
4/25/2007 6:26:36 PM
I carried a firearm once (as a peace officer)and I now teach at an inner-city high school. I felt safer before perhaps b/c of body armor and a sidearm. I try to explain to people that firearms can be used for entertainment and hunting, as well as personal safety. People just need to be educated. The way so many of our young people's minds have been twisted and corrupted where they glorify being "gangsta" and devalue human life, we better think twice before eliminating the 2nd Amendment.
John Jersey
4/25/2007 6:23:49 PM
I shoot both Glock and IDPA matches. I have also had and have a conceal and carry permit in 2 states. I am a law abiding citizen and a retired firefighter and in my years I have never heard of a conceal and carry permittted and traind person commiting any illegal violent act. As sated enforce the laws we have, my one question for the law makers is why do alliens that do not have the right to vote can pass through the system in place. Lets try controlling our borders first. TGS you have worked to the letter of the law and have no reason to feel bad, if it wasn't you it would have been another source and if not legal it would have been illegal. Look at the gun free areas of the world and country it will show you how effective gun control laws really works. Funny i have a glock in my safe for 2 years that hasn't discharged.
David
4/25/2007 6:02:47 PM
Cho was not a US citizen, he was a Resident Alien, legally entitled to live in the US, but denied the right to vote or serve on a jury. He should have also been denied the right to purchase a weapon. I have heard absolutely nothing from either Pro-Gun or Anti-Gun lobbies about restricting the rights of Non-US citizens from purchasing weapons and ammunition and I think that the Gun Industry won't do it because they believe it will cut into sales of their products. That is a disgrace. The NRA should step up now and take leadership on this issue. The constitution was drafted for citizens by citizens. Non-US citizens should not have the same abilities to purchase fireams and ammo in this country. If that were the case on Janaury 31, 2007, Cho would have had a much more difficult time arming himself for this slaughter of innocents.
glock shooter
4/25/2007 5:58:12 PM
yea ban guns that will solve all of our problems. next time some sick person decides to kill people they use a bomb and then there are no survivors left behind. if somebody is sick enought to kill innocent people not having a gun is not going to stop them.
Think about it
4/25/2007 5:49:23 PM
Let me Pose this thought to everyone............What If just one of the 32 killed had a firearm with them. Maybe this would have ended differently?????
Doug
4/25/2007 5:37:40 PM
It sickens me that the anti-gun liberals wait for tragedies like this one to go after our rights. I have been a gun owner since I was old enough to purchase one, in fact I own over 50 guns now and no one has ever been hurt or put in harms way by my guns. I have helped a number of curious friends experience the fun and joy of firearms ownership and none of their guns have ever hurt anyone. The only crime commited here was by the madman at VT. You have my full and unweivering support.
M
4/25/2007 5:20:47 PM
More gun control laws is the LAST thing we need. I remember when the Columbine shooting happened and they said something like 30 federal laws were broken by those shooters - I often ask people - if we had 31 laws do you think the shooting would have never happened?
carry 2 at a time
4/25/2007 5:15:52 PM
what people dont realize is if we lose the 2nd whats next? freeedom of speech? as we all know the hole imus thing shows we are even losing that right also. if your not a member think about joining the nra. they fight for all our rights. i live in upstate new york and im not allowed to carry in nyc, no one but law enforcement can. look at all the gun crimes that happen there. sure getting rid of guns will work (only idiots think this way) this kid was a waste of human life and somebody screwed up by not putting on his record that he was mental. the gun dealers did nothing wrong. im a better american for owning guns and all my fellow brothers and sisters that arm themselves are also.
Speedy
4/25/2007 5:11:35 PM
Cars kill more people everyday, don't see anybody trying to outlaw them. Oops, shouldn't give them any ideas - nevermind.
pettsir
4/25/2007 4:59:53 PM
NO GUN or gun company should be blamed for the actions of any sick individual. What if Cho had used Oreo cookies to kill his victims by jamming them down peoples throats a fist full at a time. would people blame Nabisco, or oreo or the store that sold them? no, they would put focus and blame where it belonged. on the sick individual and all the people who allow him or her to roam loose in society. i for one WISH my state. (New Jersey) would issue carry permits. if any one can tell me who i have to call, e-mail, or write to. to get the morons in charge of this state to allow the issue of carry permits, please let me know. My heart goes out to all the young people slain at VT, and to their families. May Cho, and others like him suffer in the after life.
Travis-response
4/25/2007 4:48:43 PM
Travis,
Did you ever stop to think that if someone else in the room had another G20 on their hip some lives may have been saved? Wake up!! Welcome to a free market society (at least until people like you sieze control).
ciampa-is-daffy
4/25/2007 4:39:49 PM
If Ciampa would simply look at the models that have eliminated guns from their society he/she would realize that their elimination is only from law abiding citizens. Furthermore, if law enforcement does not have the ability to defend themselves from "the bad guys" (by the way, they aren't going to turn in their guns)who will really be in charge then? If Ciampa wants to make a difference in American politics I suggest he tackle something other than gun control. It simply does not work. Ignorance can be lethal. This tragedy is a point in fact.
Truth
4/25/2007 4:37:46 PM
I place no blame on tgs for lawfully operating a business. However, tgs should review its current policies and act voluntarily if something reasonable can be done to minimize the potential for handgun abuse in the future.
Now let's put the blame where it belongs:
1 Cho,
2 The legal system that allowed an "imminent threat" to roam freely in society,
3 The college administration for not dismissing Cho after he lit his dorm room on fire and stalked two coeds,
4 The federal government for allowing non-citizens to possess firearms,
5 Cho's parents for turning a blind eye to his mental state and for not taking appropriate action to prevent him from becoming a danger to others, and
6 The news media for perpetually glorifying murderers. Our children need positive role models like Professor Librescu, not columbine-like martyrs to inspire the next generation of lunatic.
matt
4/25/2007 4:33:14 PM
This is for Travis that posted on 4/25/2007 at 10:26:20. Your an absolute moron. It was not a Glock 20 that the sad little geek used to kill those people; it was a Walther P22 which is a 22 caliber semi-automatic handgun and the other gun was a 9mm Glock which limits it to being either a Glock 17, 19, 26, or 34.....I believe it was a Glock 19. So, get your facts straight before spewing hot smelly stuff out of your mouth. Walther P22 does not equal a Glock 20. Go hug a tree dude. Maybe when you wake up from your euphoric dream we will live in a violence free world where no one needs to protect themselves. Your a perfect example of a stupid pro gun control person that speaks without knowing the facts. I bet if you would have been at VT when this happened you would have wished like hell that you had a gun although you would have probably shot yourself because you don't know muzzle from butt; or your mouth from your ass for that matter.
GB
4/25/2007 4:23:52 PM
The message from badge summed it up best. Guns are tools. Any madman that is committed to do evil will use any tool at his disposal. A homemade bomb, chemicals even a car can create mass casualties. We cannot as a people allow tools to be banned because it has or might be used to do evil deeds. Even plowshares can kill. Fight the evil not the instrument used to carry it out.
Matt
4/25/2007 4:16:27 PM
Mr Thompson,
I am sorry to hear about what your company is going through. You provide a service to many responsible people and if anyone is to blame, should it not be the government who's "background check" failed to flag this psycho even though he was institutionialized recently and still armed him after his waiting period. He was a known stalker, don't take our guns away, take our crazies instead. If a mad man like Cho opened fire anywhere near me he wouldn't get far because I PROUDLY carry my Glock and will defend myself, my neighbor, and my right to carry until the day I die.
Badger
4/25/2007 4:09:58 PM
Guns are tools, nothing more nothing less. People kill people. What if he had used pipe bombs to kill those people. Would they want to regulate plumbing supplys?
Matthew-Honolulu
4/25/2007 3:59:34 PM
The ignorance of people who thinks that firearms should be abolished, are being more of the problem than the solution.
If they had any education on the staggering amount of firearms that are on the streets and homes, legally or illegally, then they would realize that completely banning firearms is practically irreversible. To outlaw firearms is like outlawing Drugs and alcohol(alcohol during the prohibition.) No matter what, only the law breakers will have them.
Living in a conservative and liberal State like Hawaii, tragic incidents like VT, closes more minds about firearms.
People... open your minds and please educate yourselves about firearms. There are literally millions of more responsible firearms owners than irresponsible ones. It's just the very, very small percentage of idiots that magnify their stupidity and bad judgements.
Onslaught
4/25/2007 3:45:48 PM
The poor, attention starved little man with the inferiority complex chained the door shut to the building to keep everyone from getting away. What if he had used gasoline instead?
I'm still waiting for one of the many anti-gunners where I work to mention the "high powered, high capacity" Walther P22. I'll be happy to show them a .22lr round and tell them about the 10 round capacity.
One last random thought. The media says that the down-trodden little troll fired in excess of 100 rounds. We all know that those evil "high capacity" (actually standard capacity)magazines will be blamed for the carnage. But the fact is, using standard 15 round capacity Glock 19 magazines, "speech impediment boy" would have needed to reload 7 times. With the safe and sane Klinton Era post-ban 10 round magazines, he would have needed to reload only 3 additional times.
God bless the students, teachers, and families of Virginia Tech.
cherry1
4/25/2007 3:38:47 PM
if all the people plus the so called anti weapons people could learn from history the only real thing that has really changed in humanity is the way we communicate phones radio tv ect.i have never seen a weapon get up and start fireing people are the ones that harm others.oh and a gun has wheels on it so if they really want my cannon i guess i'll have to give it to them.
Art In South Carolina
4/25/2007 3:09:10 PM
I am sick of the anti Gun fanatics, that try to put the blame on everyone, gun retailers, and manufactures.. When
every thing they do is legal, acording to the laws.. Your
company did everything as the laws state.. Who could of
known that this person was mentaly unstable, if anyone is
to blame its the ones that failed to put on his record, that
Cho was mentaly unstabled.. This has become a ploy of the
anti Gun groups, to try to take Guns form law abiding Citizans.. I support Top Glock, and will contue to order
parts from them.. I pray for all familys, and victums at
Virgina Tech.......... supporter in SC.
Mark
4/25/2007 2:53:21 PM
?My stepdaughter is about to graduate from Virginia Tech. Fortunately, she was not a direct victim
of last week’s events. My wife and I visited her this weekend and mourned with the rest of the VT
community. Despite the tragedy, I remain a staunch supporter of the 2nd Amendment and of civilian
firearm ownership. Anyone who believes that laws will protect society from violence is living in
a fool's paradise. As I sit in my office, I can look across the Potomac to Washington, DC, where
handguns have essentially been banned since 1976. That ban has merely left the law abiding citizens
of DC defenseless against violent criminals. No prohibition has ever worked; none ever will. I do
not advocate to force those who are morally or ethically opposed to arm themselves, but I suggest
that those of us who are legally, mentally and emotionally competent to defend ourselves, our loved
ones and society at large should remain at liberty to do so by lawfully arming ourselves.
NM Mounted Patrol Trainee
4/25/2007 2:49:45 PM
First, our constitutional right to bear arms is a guarantee granted us by the founders of our great country. They were more than aware that madmen, thugs, thieves, idiots, etc. would be able to obtain guns whenever they so desired.
The constitutional right was not aimed to grant illegal use of guns. It provided just the opposite: "the right of honest, law-abiding citizens to protect their lives, property, and the lives of others from harms being brought to bear by the illegal use of a firearm.
Whether the threat comes from an individual, gang, or foreign government...the Constitution of the United States grants its citizens the right to bear arms.
If this doesn't make sense, then I'm sure that for those it does NOT make sense would have been completely lost had they had the opportunity to have sat in on the Constitional Convention and also the introduction of the Bill of Rights.
Sincerely,
NM Mounted Patrol Trainee
Ct. Pistol Instructor
4/25/2007 2:00:08 PM
This was a mad man .. pure and simple. I am living proof of 3 close encounters of the worst kind. I f one person was there with a gun and knew how to use it many lives could have been saved.
Anonymous
4/25/2007 1:44:29 PM
I know it has been a difficult time for you and your business and family. My prayers are with the victums families and yours. Stay strong we are with you. We know the truth. Americans need to protect themselves and companies like your make that possible. There will always be those who will assult our freedoms. We will stand against those ideas. Let this be a call to action to elect people who support our freedoms and be involved at local levels to get our message out there. The other side has many outlets to get there message out we need to use ours.
Thanks
harleyd95
4/25/2007 1:42:16 PM
Society simply cannot blame anyone or anything for this sick minded individual. It happen's. We do not "harrass or question" say Car, Motorcycle or Boat dealerships when they sell a vehicle someone gets killed in or use's as a "weapon" to run someone over. We do not blame or "Harrass" Airlines when there is a plane crash, It happen's. And this may seem out there but do we blame or harrass "Louisville Slugger" when someone is bludgeoned and killed with a baseball bat? we do not have a GUN problem we have a "CRIMINAL" problem due to a number of factors in which a "criminal" could use any of the above said objects to kill several people and possibly themselves.
ANTI-Ciampa
4/25/2007 1:42:08 PM
Ciampa, you need to go back to Euphoria where you came from and take some more anti-paranoia medications. Give me a break, you wouldn't let your kids play at someones house if they OWNED A GUN? Pitiful.
S
4/25/2007 1:34:25 PM
Please hang in there, not everyone believes in the right to defend themselves and their families. I wish you guys the best. And I also to those that would take away the tools used to defend what we hold dear: I hope that you NEVER have to experience anything that would make you wish you had a gun. For those of us who have already experienced. We'll hold on to ours, thanks!
Troy
4/25/2007 1:28:45 PM
Thank you. The only thing that gun control would do is take away guns from law abiding citizens and the criminals would still get them. Look at bootlegging. That was illegal for a time and somehow the demand created the supply. Gun control will not reduce crime. Support the Second Amendment.
My thoughts go out to the families and friends of the fallen at Virginia Tech.
Mako
4/25/2007 1:14:43 PM
The sell of the Walther to Cho shouldn't cause you any angst.
Left Wing Gun Grabbing Fanatics will always be just that. While holding themselves up to be peace loving, they zealously attack our 2nd Amendment Rights & individuals that support those rights.
Cho, Virginia Tech, Psychologist, and a Judge are to blame for the massacre...not you.
richman
4/25/2007 12:55:07 PM
Thank you for stating the truth. The man was responsible for his own acts. I will continue to support you by purchasing from you and encourage all my freedom loving friends to do the same.
Novencido
4/25/2007 12:50:33 PM
I don't know what the fuss is about Cho Seung-Hui buying an extra clip. So what? Many people have extra magazine clips. Of course it aided in making the killings more "efficient" but he would have found a way to kill that many people without buying an extra clip. I'm blessed to not be a family member of one of the victims or be a victim myself. I really feel for those families but I hope this won't be used to make more laws. I know if someone I knew was killed using a firearm I wouldn't think twice of the weapon chosen but on the killer himself. They haven't tried to put a ban on motor vehicles even though they're also used to do criminal duties and even murder.
Jeff
4/25/2007 12:43:54 PM
What people should be upset with is the schools lack of protection!I have two kids in college.....They have been brought up with guns,what they can do(shoot dinner).What do I have to do send all my kids to school with a bullet-proof jacket? One good CCW could have stoped a lot of killing! Take guns away and you will have car-bombs,anthrax,pipe bombs.I have never seen a hand gun shoot by it's self,and reload! It was the nut behind the trigger!God bless those who lost loved ones and god bless america!
Rob K.
4/25/2007 12:39:16 PM
Personally, I am tired of hearing about this crap. Something a Korean man did across the country may effect me, but I am already aware that criminals possess guns and do bad things with them. I've been in the Marine Corps for almost 5 years and am well of tradegies that happen daily. Spare me the freakin drama of yet another shooting. I don't wanna hear about it anymore. I'm sorry it happened, I really am, everybody is sad, but stop giving this crazy murderer so much attention because he's not worth it.
On a semi-different note, blaming the gun dealer for a shooting would be similar to blaming Chevy for a drunk driver that runs into another car and kills somebody. Is TGSCOM, Inc being blamed for not being able to tell the future? Of the millions of guns that they have sold, what percentage is 1 murderer?
Gun men and terrorists walk into buildings and markets everyday in Iraq and murder civilians. More than 33 I think, it's somewhere around 66,000.
Rex
4/25/2007 12:22:23 PM
Mr Thompson, Thank You on behalf of America's gun owners for standing up and telling the truth about gun ownership and placing the responsibility for this tragedy were it truely belongs. You can be proud of yourself and be aware that law abiding citizens are behind you.
Souldustpro
4/25/2007 12:20:02 PM
Dear Mr. Thompson & Staff-
Everyone has already said it, but I stand behind you and the laws of the great nation enabling law-abiding citizens the opportunity to defend themselves. I live in Atlanta, and there isn't a day that goes by that I don't think I could be a victim. I have a CCW permit, and carry a Glock 27, 23, or 30 depending where I go that day, and I use magazines & accessories that I purchased from your store. I carry everywhere I go, and if forced to, I will defend my life with lethal force. I'm sorry that your company has been the recipient of such negative press and comments from illogical thinkers over this issue. I will continue to be your customer as long as I own guns, and I thought you'd like hear something positive and supporting. Best regards...
A. Lowe Kansas
4/25/2007 12:18:16 PM
I support your stance and position. I own a Glock 23 and know how to use it very well. My prayers are with VT, and Mr. Cho's family, god only knows the grief they will be getting and they have nothing to do with it. On the issue, the Mr. Cho was madman and crazy, I have to disaggree, his attack was methodically thought out, and planned, he even stopped for 2 hours to mail a video. A madman just shoots until there kill, not plan, lets get this blame off everyone and every item except where it belongs. On Mr. Cho himself, Not Guns, Not the System, and for sure not the gun dealers. If they wouldnt sell him the gun, he could have any gun he wanted in hours for a back alley.
Knight Tiger
4/25/2007 12:03:01 PM
First let me thank you for you & your companies stance on this horror! I have a CCW and carry a Glock Model 23 every time I leave my home. We live in a country area that has a very slow responce time from any Law Enforcement. I feel it my duty as a law abiding citizen.
Our town is only a few hundred people, the gas station has been robbed twice at gunpoint, as well as our bank. I shoot my weapon at least twice a week and feel ready if I ever am forced to use my firearm.
Lastly, to all of the "Gun Grabbers" etc. out there a parting thought... Guns are to blame in this or any shooting as much as a pencil is for all of the spelling mistakes I've made over the years.
Thanks, and God Bless.
Icarryeveryday
4/25/2007 12:01:32 PM
This should show to people that they need to take advantage of the freedom that our country has fought for. I do believe in gun control, and think that there should be more concern about people that own guns, who cant use them. Im from south Georgia and I shoot my gun everyday in a controlled area because I know that it is my duty to know how to use one if I own it. You know that the criminals are going to use it. I am very sorry for everyone that was involved in VT, and my fraternity is going to raise money for the victims families and I encourage everyone else to do the same.
In Our Prayers
4/25/2007 11:59:02 AM
Tougher gun laws will only be tougher for the law abiding. Any bad actor can go to a "dark side" of town and buy whatever he can afford. I thought I heard a caller on the news state that in Texas the madman would have been shot down long before he got too far. If I heard that correctly maybe we all need to take a lesson from Texas.
Ciampa
4/25/2007 11:57:01 AM
What is it going to take for us to stop the killing of children and the proliferation of guns, which leave every single American at risk?
Ciampa
4/25/2007 11:56:10 AM
meant to say NEVER let my child play
Ciampa
4/25/2007 11:55:21 AM
Weigh these numbers against the very rare occasion where some hero brandishing a gun saves the day. Surely we would all be safer without guns. I barely trust police with guns never mind my neighbors. I would let my child play at a friend’s house if I knew their parent's owned a gun.
Ciampa
4/25/2007 11:54:15 AM
Why "If guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns." falls apart once you dig a little deeper into the reality that this outdated cliché overlooks. Every day, nearly 8 children or teens are killed by gun violence in America—235 each month. In 2004 alone, the gun death toll for children and teens in the United States was 2,825, more than the total number of American service men and women who died in combat in Iraq and Afghanistan since those wars began in 2003 through December 2006. Even our youngest children were not exempt from gun violence. In 2004: 58 preschoolers were killed by firearms. But 8 children and teens dying each day is a moral outrage. Since 1979 gun violence has snuffed out the lives of 101,413 children and teens in America. Many of these tragic deaths are invisible to the American public, although certainly not to their families, friends and communities. They rarely make newspaper headlines or garner national television coverage. It’s time to change that reality.
Responsible Gun Owner from California
4/25/2007 11:32:14 AM
"With great power comes great responsibility." -Spiderman-
History has told has that since the beginning of time, people who have evil designs (i.e. to dominate or conquer or kill or control) will always carry out their plans only when they have the perception of superior power. A barbarian horde will only attack and pillage weakly fortified and defended villages.
A wolf will only attack meek and defenseless sheeps.
If we cannot armed those who refuse to pick up arms (liberals), then maybe we can have a few armed "shepherd warriors" to defend the "sheeps."
My heart goes to the victims of the VT tragedy and their families, including the family of the madman.
Nick
4/25/2007 11:24:08 AM
Reading some of these posts about not having guns, guns are bad..blah blah blah..You people need to pull your head out of your ass and realize that if there wasn't a gun in his hand, it could have been a pipe bomb! Guns are only dangerous in the hands of dangerous people! Get your damn facts straight and stop living in the 60's! Do you know how chaotic the world will be if we don't have firearms? The crime rate would sky rocket because we would be left defenseless. You need to rethink your choices because honestly you sound like fools! Ive been around guns since I was 10 and to this day I own over 30 guns total 5 of them handguns! Are they dangerous? No because they are locked in a safe with trigger locks! They only become dangerous when gripped in the hands of lunatics and criminals! GET UR FACTS STRAIGHT!
jkendrick
4/25/2007 11:23:28 AM
Gun control is cowardice and stupidity. Va Tech should be sued for not allowing those students with carry permits to defend themselves. Any organization, whether public or private, that requires its personnel be defenseless, should be required to assume the liability for their personal safety. Blaming guns for violent crimes is like blaming automobiles for drunk driving. Look for future attacks as Mr Cho as shown Al Qaeda the vulnerability of our colleges and universities.
Don - Ohio
4/25/2007 11:20:04 AM
GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE ! --- PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE ! At least he wasn't a suicide bomber etc... If some of the other students where leagely armed ????
MichaelK.
4/25/2007 11:07:26 AM
First, my thoughts and prayers are with the victims - and Mr. Cho's family. Many good thoughts on the issues. I believe in our right to bear arms. Responsible owners who know the proper use of weapons should do so. I think the continued effort by the media and polities to say guns cause problems are avoiding the real issue - it is people, their morality and what is considered acceptable by the current ‘uber-strokked’ generation that leads to these tragedies. Deal with the people, not the tool. THanks fo rth eoportuntity and the feedback!
DIXON
4/25/2007 10:50:52 AM
WE LIVE IN CANADA, AND DONT HAVE THE DEATH PENALTY FOR THE SCUM OF SOCIETY! BE GLAD IN AMERICA AT LEAST YOU DO HAVE THAT TO LOOK FORWARD TO FOR THIS SHOOTER AT THE CAMPUS. THOSE POOR FAMILIES,OUR CONDOLENCES FROM CANADA.
Jonathan
4/25/2007 10:47:48 AM
Just think, had some of the students involved in this shooting had a weapon of there own. This tragedy would have never made it to the level that it made it. They could have stopped this sick individual in his tracks.
The fact that the gun that was used in the shooting was purchased from this website is totally irrelevant. If people want guns they will get them by whatever means. But just remember, IF WE OUTLAW GUNS. ONLY OUTLAWS WILL HAVE GUNS!
jkhjkh
4/25/2007 10:41:55 AM
the other thing to consider is what good do guns provide? Hopefully from now on, since you provided the gun(s) to the VA tech shooter you will reconsider your line of work and really think about what is good for humanity. Do you have a conscience?? PLEASE think about that. I am not a hugely religious person, wondering if you are, knowing that what you do is despicable nonetheless.
Mike G.
4/25/2007 10:41:43 AM
The only people who approach the contemptibility of the psychotic who executed unarmed college students at Virginia Tech recently are those who seize upon the occasion of a tragedy to further their malignant agenda of making everyone equally weak so that they can feel "safer." If you need to blame someone other than the shooter himself, take a look at the Gun-Ban Lobby, which actually enables the miscreants and occasional monsters in our society to more efficiently carry out their crimes. There is nothing noble about weakness, nor is strength the equivalent of violence. And to those of you from foreign countries who are proud of the fact that your governments don't trust you with a firearm, keep in mind that you are not truly free, nor are you "safe." You are merely helpless, and at the mercy of your government and the whims of criminals.
Not Sure
4/25/2007 10:36:27 AM
Blaming the firearms industry for the atrocities at Virginia Tech is like blaming American and United Airlines for 9-11. Homicidal maniacs exist; we need the capability to defend ourselves from them, anywhere, anytime. TGS has always been on my short list of "good guys!" Hang in there!
Big Flip
4/25/2007 10:33:19 AM
May the loved ones of those lost in the VT tragedy, including the family of Cho Seung Hui, find peace and comfort in God's love and mercy. Had Mr. Hui not have been able to acquire handguns, he would have used some other means (e.g. fire, poison, explosives, vehicle, etc.) to carry out his premeditated mass murders. The fact that he thought far enough ahead to bring locks and chains to deter exit and entry to the building indicates that he was very determined to carry out his plan. Had any record of Mr. Hui's mental state been available, I'm sure he wouldn't have been able to acquire a handgun from TGSCOM . . . or any other reputable dealer. As long as TGSCOM complied with federal firearm laws they bear no blame or liability in this incident. Keep up the good work and I'll be ordering something else from you soon !!!
Travis
4/25/2007 10:26:20 AM
Only in the USA would you find an online retail outlet trying to sell the same gun they sold (Glock 20 10mm Hand Gun ) that was used to kill 32 students last week advertised on the front page this week.
cidral
4/25/2007 10:19:39 AM
Guns Don't kill, people do our support to your company from Puerto Rico
Arron
4/25/2007 10:17:49 AM
This whole incident isn't going to change anyone's opinion.
Mine: "Gun's don't kill people, It's the nut behind the bolt." If it wasn't a gun it would have been something else. I'm still waiting for the responsibility for your own actions (Cho) it be addressed. Screw the media.
Wigs
4/25/2007 9:59:52 AM
There's a carrying permit available for qualified people in VA, and I understand that there were some that were killed that had this permit but were not allowed to carry because the school had a gun free law in place. If the ones that had a carrying permit were allowed to carry their gun, I believe that there would be a lot less dead now. And if that Bozo Cho would have walked into the first room that he started shooting up and there was a person with a carrying permit, no one would be dead except Cho.
Alan Hendricks
4/25/2007 9:56:40 AM
Mr. Thompson,
First, I have deep compassion for the victims slaughtered by the lunatic Cho. This individual had serious mental issues, identified by others, even by his own family. My response to the left and the argument for gun restriction is this: Guns are tools and their use is determined by the user, in this case, the guy was a freak. However, if just one person was carrying their legally licensed firearm on campus that day, they may have had a chance to take this guy out before he shot over 60 people. I think Top Glock should be commended for taking all measures to report the truth. The continued support of my second amendment right will never waiver. It is exactly because of people like Mr. Cho that cause law abiding citizens the need to have and use firearms to protect themselves.
Anonymous
4/25/2007 9:51:11 AM
I notice that traffic fatalities do not dwell on the brand of offending vehicle. This terrible tragedy cannot be blamed on your company any more than it can be blamed on GM, Ford or Chrysler. Thank you for your openness on this.
A Canadian Glock owner.
Tr
4/25/2007 9:42:35 AM
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I'm linking this page as well as :
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CBS News Article http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/04/19/cbsnews_investigates/main2708822.shtml
Hodad
4/25/2007 9:31:05 AM
Guns cannot be blamed for the actions of people! Guns are a tool, people make their own decisions and carry out their own actions. Perhaps if the campus police in VA had the TOOLS to combat this sicko, they could have saved many of those lives.
w8d4it
4/25/2007 9:27:09 AM
The VA Tech shooting was sickning. The shooter was deranged. The gun he used was an inanimate object. There will always be "nut cases" who will find a means of harming others.
There a more people killed in the US by automobiles than guns. Yet no one is calling for a ban on autos.
Normal Person
4/25/2007 9:18:56 AM
People will use anything they can to do what they have to do....If guns are taken away it will just be something else like bombs or bats! Honest gun owners should not be held for an act of volience created by a man with serve problems. My thoughts are with VT staff and students.....
Don
4/25/2007 9:16:17 AM
I believie that the fault is with the school, and the political correctness of having a disturbed person such as this in such close proxcimity to students. Also given the knowledge form Doctors that he is severly distrubed and did anything about it.I feel that if the State had this information they certainly should have not allowed this person to purcahse a gun. There were to many flags going up about this distrubed person, who needed help. I also believe that if more resposible people had a weapon on campus they could have stopped him. Guns don't kill people, people do.I have great sympathy for all those who have lost loved ones in this incident. this is a wake up call for political correctness.
Warren
4/25/2007 9:12:37 AM
As always, the criminal killed the innocent victims, not the weapon. Horrible things happen every day all over the world. Obviously, I'm extremely sad for the families of the victims. The only good thing to come of this is that Cho killed himself so we don't have to feed the bastard for the rest of his life. Guns don't kill people, people kill people.
JeRe
4/25/2007 9:06:28 AM
Look, since this incident my local gun shop has been swarming... People are all over this concealed carry protection... Instead of bitching and moaning like everyone else, I suggest 1 thing... If you havnt already, GO BUY A GUN!!!! Fuck buy 2! So that none of us will be on the next news show! After this tragity I will be honest, I CARRY EVERYWHERE!!! All I can say is that if me or one of my friends had been anywhere around, it probably would have been half survivers! I DONT CARE ABOUT BACKROUND CHECKS, OR GUN CONTROL (which by the way means use 2 hands!) I care that walking downtown my family and I are safe, As well as any other innocent bystander that I may happen to be able to save in the time of need!
Solo
4/25/2007 9:06:24 AM
I have always been an advocate of concealed weapon permits, but living in the "Free State" of Maryland, it won't happen soon.
For the illiberal-liberals who oppose carry permits, they might want to consider:
- 45,000 die each year from auto accidents in the US. Over one million are injured. Where is the liberal outcry?
- How about the Oklahoma City bombing, World Trade Center, Ted Bundy, John Wayne Gacy and Jeffery Dahmer? Not a single trigger pulled & thousands died.
It seems that the liberal agenda is gun control and that they choose to ignore all else.
Thomas Jefferson once argued that, ”laws that forbid the carrying of arms…disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes…Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.”
These words are still true!
Ken
4/25/2007 9:03:38 AM
As many other have said, don't blame yourself! I'm a COP and a LEO firearms instructor. The repeated calls for tougher firearms laws by the liberal left sicken both myself and many other officers at this department. We have a LARGE number of CCW holders in our county, most trained by myself. We have no concern whatsoever about any of them. We know that we can't be everywhere at once, hope they never have to use DF, but know that most are able to defend themselves (and others) from idiots like Hui.
Professor
4/25/2007 9:02:42 AM
First, my prayers are with all the families who lost loved ones at VT including the wife of one of my best friends who lost a very close relative. Even though Cho Seung-Hui was obvioulsy mentally unstable, unless some new information about his parents is found, they also need our prayers. I have a son and daughter and if one of them were to do what he did I would be heart-broken with grief that my child would be dead and that they had died under such ungodly circumstances. You also need our prayers. Even though you followed the law exactly the feeling you have is what any normal person would have but you are not responsible for the actions of Cho Seung-Hui. I just wish there had been someone present who could have stopped him. Those who still insist on gun free zones are the ones to blame. I pray God will bless you and your family and protect you so you will not have to protect yourself!!
Dave
4/25/2007 8:59:38 AM
Your whole Industry should be shut down!! Guns are for the Law inforcement and apporved Hunting.......nothing else!! The NRA is just a bunch of "Bullshit"!! Get out while your ahead, before more innocent people are killed across this Nation's College Campuses!!
RSmith
4/25/2007 8:58:53 AM
please exit this business - va tech was enough - do you really think that anyone really needs a gun?
Dave
4/25/2007 8:50:47 AM
It doesn't surprise me that the flacks are attempting to blame you. The real culprit is the lunatic Cho, and if there are any others to be blamed it is the Virginia Tech administration, the inept bureaucracy that allowed this mutt to walk around despite all the warnings and the so-called civil libertarians who are thre first to coddle nut jobs like Cho. Hang in there and tell your critics to pound salt.
Ergobob
4/25/2007 8:48:04 AM
Eric: I agree 100% with you. My heart also goes out to the families of those murdered.
Just think, if only one person he came in contact with had a weapon it could have been stopped.
Thank you goes to Virginia Tech for making it a Gun-Free Zone. I think the blood is on their hands and the killers.
Rat
4/25/2007 8:41:44 AM
If the blame was truely that of a machine, then it is time to recognize that the auto obile industry is responsible for creating the drunk driver. Drunks were around long before cars and the advent of the car mad a drunk driver, resposible for killing more on a daily basis that a gun could never do. It is amazing to me that liberals are only willing to screw everybody so long as it does not effect themselves. The 1st time they get mugged, they will want the gun become a conservative. I am willing to bet they would complain if the govt started taking away their cars!!
Rafi
4/25/2007 8:37:00 AM
I'm with you, if the government cannot protect me and my family, I will protect them. No body is going to take my leagally own guns. Keep up the good work.
Reasonable Person
4/25/2007 8:30:36 AM
If guns were not available he would have used something else. If a gun is responsible for killing someone, a pencil is responsible for misspelled words. A gun evens the odds against those of us who wish to protect ourselves and our families. I agree with some of the students interviewed at VT, when they say they felt helpless and wished they had a CHL to stop this crazed lunatic. Perhaps we should stop fast food restaurants from making people fat.
KBC
4/25/2007 8:29:01 AM
People like to over look the fact that it was a madman who did the rampage they want to look at how he did it and where he got it. In the case of the legal gun dealers, no one was wrong int heir transactions, we are not mindreaders, if the person meets requirements, checks the right boxes and puts int he correct answers, you have to sell to them. Perhaps we should look at the people around him who never said, hey this guy is talking about killing people....
Steve Mazza
4/25/2007 8:28:58 AM
Eric - I respect your openess on this situation when it would be easy to stick your head in the sand. This should, of course, NOT be a reflection on your business in any way. It is disturbing how easy it for those who look to dismember our 2nd Amendment freedoms to use this terrible tragedy for their political gains. Your response was right on. I carry to protect myself and family and will proudly continue to do so. Stay firm in your beliefs. I wish you, your family and business success, health and happiness. I'll be buying my next firearm from you.
Anonymous
4/25/2007 8:28:28 AM
This IS a free country and we do have the right to bear arms. If anyone is crazy enough, consumed with extreme hatred and doesn't care about himself or herself, they would kill people with whatever they could. Would you ban cars if someone drove through a large crowd of people? I don't think so! No one knows what goes on in the minds of individuals. So, until we can know that, there is really no way to stop things like this from happening. We just have to be alert to our surroundings, be prepared to protect ourselves the best we can, and pray for people who are consumed with hate.
dcibearkpd
4/25/2007 8:25:11 AM
I've seen more lives ruined by alcohol than any other substance or item since my law enforcement career began in 1964. Trial lawyers have convinced society that people are not to blame, only what they are forced to buy. THIS tragic event can be lain at the feet of the mental health community. Heaven forbid we call a spade a spade. Political correctness is destroying our country!
MCA
4/25/2007 7:59:25 AM
Eric:
I cannot imagine how you feel as a Father and a business man who has been implicated by innuendo by the largely left wing media in this terrible act by a deranged man. Hang in there you have a great deal of support from clear thinking people. In my opinion you have no culpability in this issue at all, what is missing here as in so many cases, is the judges failure to report the obviously insane actions of what at that time, was a warped person. Our failure as a nation to recognize the line between personal privacy and potential danger to the population as a whole is the root cause of this tragedy.
Lionheart
4/25/2007 7:48:00 AM
Top Glock holds no resposibility for the acts of a madman. The resposibility rests solely at the feet of Cho, an evil entity that does not deserve the noun human,
The insane gun banners think Cho's weapons committed the murders with Cho as an innocent bystander. Too bad the politically correct administration banned law abiding, licensed, concealed weapons permitees from bringing their weapons on campus. Even sadder is the fact that none of the students put their safety and that of their fellow students as primary and ignored the ban. The carnage would have been greatly reduced.
Top Glock rest well. You have saved untold numbers of lives by supplying arms to law abiding citizens who used them to protect themselves and their loved ones from evil.
Ackvil
4/25/2007 7:45:56 AM
As a past customer, Glock owner, and CCL holder you have my 100% support. These anti-gun people are irrational. If you look at their logic we would ban automobiles since they kill more people than guns and forbid the sale of fertilizer since it was used as an explosive device in Oklahoma.
Jim From Virginia
4/25/2007 7:40:07 AM
Eric - thanks for getting out in front on this issue. Cho was a crazed lunatic who killed innocent people. HE committed the crime - the gun did not. Too bad the media and the Liberal whack-jobs can't see that.
Mag
4/25/2007 7:34:33 AM
Criminals and "sick" people will always be able to obtain weapons. A person has a right to purchase guns for protection, hunting or even just for collecting.
Isle of Man
4/25/2007 7:31:16 AM
We are part of the UK but we dont have a handgun ban, I own 2 glocks, a Ruger & various long guns. They will spend their life paper punching. The effect the ban had on handgun crime was amazing, handgun crime has increased dramaticaly, pre-ban black market handguns average price = £650 ($1300) price since the ban £125 ($250) Same problem here, People kill people, not guns
Chip
4/25/2007 7:29:17 AM
Hang in there Eric! A gun is an inamimate object...I cannot believe that the college campus had virtually NO security in place! Top Glock is a great company..period.
antadope
4/25/2007 7:12:54 AM
the maker of the sword can not control the person whom weilds it i own 4 glocks and carry one legally for personal and family protection at all times i think what you have done is nice but glock nor the person whom sold it to him is not responsible the only one responsible is the shooter
ultramag
4/25/2007 6:55:28 AM
Stick to your guns and don't let the politicians with little real life experience pass judgement. Cho Seung-Hui was a crazy piece of $h!*
jerrin
4/25/2007 6:37:10 AM
Our society has created a "Void" that we can't get out. With "Do Gooders" and ACLU groups doing what they have I am surprised there hasn't been more unfortunate and bizarr shootings over the recent years. By protecting the rights of people that shouldn't have or be entitled to these rights ,these organizations have begun the process of social degrading. So let's blame other groups and people that have absolutely no association with the primary cause (Gun Dealers and licensed people doing what the law is telling them to do and how to do it)! I gusss the ignorance within the country is far greater than I had ever anticipated.
MUZZLEDUSTER
4/25/2007 6:33:40 AM
I feel armed teachers and campus employees would have definitely reduced the death toll. This Cho POS was a known nutcase; if that info was in the database NICS would have picked it up.
TGS is in no way to blame. I think we ought to be making an effort to purchase more supplies from reputable dealers like you. My order will be forthcoming.
TomD
4/25/2007 6:29:03 AM
The truth of this unfortunate incident will make no difference to those who seek to destroy our 2nd Amendment rights. Obviously you did nothing wrong. Our only hope is to change the 'sheep' mentality & restore personal responsibility. I cannot imagine curling up in a fetal position waiting to be shot!
bulldog
4/25/2007 6:22:30 AM
as there are too many responses to read in the time i have, i agree that there is only the gunman to blame for this tragedy. bad people will ALWAYS find a way to obtain whatever means they decide to use against innocent people. if some of the faculty were allowed to be armed this may not have ended the way it did. the anti gun advocates need to understand that guns don't kill people. people are the ultimate misusers of the weapons when they commit a crime. the weapons were created for defense, not offense. you have my full support TGSCOM!
Family Protector
4/25/2007 6:15:31 AM
I think it's sad that the "Ostrich People", (sticking their heads in the sand). Can actually believe that banning guns would keep them out of the hands of criminals; after all drugs are outlawed & no one can get them, Right? I am a single father & have been teaching my son about guns since age 7. He knows not to play with them & also knows once that bullet leaves the barrel it can't come back. Ignorance is the true culprit not the gun dealers. I work for a TV station & am truly amazed at how prejudice the media is against guns. The media told about the online purchase but failed to tell about the gun being sent to an FFL dealer. Thanks for all & keep up the fight against the deluded public...
oldcrab
4/25/2007 6:15:02 AM
It seems to be the way of this changing world, that whenever this type of tragedy occurs, first blame guns, then blame the individual's parents. Everyone has to take responsibility for their own actions. PERIOD!
Anonymous
4/25/2007 5:59:53 AM
I feel someone in this country on a green card SHOULD NOT be allowed to purchase a weapon. You should have to be a US citizen.I did not know that you could purchase a handgun being here in the US on a green card. I mean Im all for the right to bear arms but not the right to bear green cards. But the writing was on the wall with this sick person and seems the background check did not pick up that he was mental.
Ohio
4/25/2007 5:55:27 AM
Leave it up to the left wing media to blame everyone but the killer .Fact is if one of the sane students had been
armed that day alot fewer people would be dead.
English
4/25/2007 5:55:24 AM
You have no reason to appologise for following the law. There was no way to stop Cho from killing and he could have killed more with improvised weapons such as Molotov cocktails in a confined space.
Anonymous
4/25/2007 5:53:49 AM
if thegunsource.com is responisble for VA tech massacre then spoons made Rosie O'Donnell fat
John B.
4/25/2007 4:57:53 AM
Blaming Topglock is like blaming Ford and/or the Dealer for the deaths caused by drunk drivers. The gun was purchased legally then used by this individual illegally to murder those students. Lets put the blame where it belongs, Cho Seung-Hui is the only one to blame here.
larry
4/25/2007 4:28:47 AM
My heart goes out to all of the victims families.But, dont ever blame a gun dealer for the insane acts of a crazed gunman.You have our support and never forget our second amendment right to bear arms!
Cris Cinco
4/25/2007 4:28:06 AM
In my humble opinion the industry should not be blamed for this. as we always say "if guns are outlawed, only outlawed will have guns." blame the person who killed innocent people not the firearm and its dealers. i always believe in the second ammendment it is our right.
bucki
4/25/2007 1:19:23 AM
i support you and your co all the way
mike
4/25/2007 1:16:27 AM
I love topglock, XDpistols, and thegunsource, I spent a lot of money there. TGSCOM have any more websites?
Freedom isn't free
4/25/2007 1:08:07 AM
I stand with you! You are on the front lines of freedom, and the country is indebted to you for that. History has proven -countless times- that disarming citizens is ALWAYS bad for the citizens! Cho Seung-Hui was a madman, a psycho. The method he used to kill had nothing to do with the act of violence. The ignorant and mindless anti-self-defense posters need to study history, and get a clue. You ARE appreciated for your strong stand, and courage in the face of ignorance and irrational attacks. And for every supportive poster here, there are millions more who may not know of your battles, but do support your ideals. I support you 100%!
Adrian
4/25/2007 1:07:21 AM
Guns kill people like spoons made Rosie O'Donnel fat.
:)...Thats a comment made by someone on this post.
How true!
If guns laws are passed against us, it would be done by politicians with an alter-agenda and backed by citizens who dont understand how to chanel their anger and fear towards a long term solution.
CC
4/25/2007 12:59:24 AM
I read a fraction of these responses and it seems overwhelmingly supportive to which I agree totally. Some responded by labeling or bringing out the fact that he is an Asian, more specifically, South Korean. Not a Chinese. To state that misfact only brings out the ignorance and bias of that writer. Simply put, a deranged person killed. He could have been a deranged female or Iraqi, Japanese, Italian, Russian, African-American, Mexican, German, policeman, accountant, criminal or a person of the cloth, etc.. My point is that America is comprised of billions of non-white, whites, blacks, from multitude of nations and backgrounds. Unless you are an North American Indian, we are all immigrants or descendents of immigrants to this land that we ALL love, called the UNITED States of America. So cut the prejudice, ignorant and stupid thinking and talking.
nutzahoy
4/25/2007 12:55:40 AM
Everyones looking for someone to blame...only person i hold responsible is that cho fellow ! He was crazy PERIOD!
insane world
4/25/2007 12:47:34 AM
A gun by itself is no good or bad. It's all up to the users. Why do the media never mention the stories in which the guns are used to safe the law abiding citizens? It is not fair to just report the negative things on guns. We are living in an insane world where "these people" want to get rid all the guns. How can we protect ourselves in view of these times endless terrorist attacks if we do not have the firearms? We need to exercise the 2nd Amendment right to protect ourselves. We just cannot depend on others.
Smoke Eater
4/25/2007 12:35:47 AM
I am very sorry that you were dragged into a situation that is clearly not your fault. What happened at Virginia Tech. is gut wrenching and should not be put on your shoulders! I support you, your company and most of all the families and friends of all who were lost!!
Verden, OK
4/25/2007 12:18:11 AM
As a Police Officer, I lean towards Crime Control and Not Gun Control. This sick maniac legally purchased his firearms and used it for a heinous crime. We live in a increasingly crazy world. It's too bad there weren't more "sane" people carrying guns near this maniac when he snapped. He may not of murdered as many people. And on a sarcastic note, the tree huggers hate guns, but when someone is trying to kill them, who do they call? a few good guys and gals that carry a gun and a badge. God Bless and keep up the good service TopGlock.
Scooter
4/25/2007 12:14:07 AM
You played up to the Media And whored your self out . We have no sympathy for you .
Dustin
4/24/2007 11:58:28 PM
You guys were completly right in your business transaction of the afore mentioned weapon. Sick individuals should have no right to own firearms and it makes sane, law abiding citizens who own guns the targets for the aftermath. Guns kill people like spoons made Rosie O'Donnel fat.
Lander
4/24/2007 11:55:43 PM
I support your buisness, you did nothing wrong. Taking guns away from responsible citizens would only make the criminals more confident. Unfortunatly this tradgedy only gave the gun control nuts more fuel for the fire. I stand for my rights and the armed citizen. Support politicians whom understand our right to bear arms and are willing to protect it.
DAPOPO
4/24/2007 11:53:50 PM
Put away the nut jobs, not the second amendment. If the court system, and judge, did thier job we would still have 32 people alive today. Also... I am going to the range tommorow.
Rob
4/24/2007 11:50:23 PM
I don't think you should even have to comment on selling the weapon. You guys did what you were supposed to do when selling a firearm. Who ever thinks otherwise is an idiot. Like you have heard many times, GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE!!!!!!
Richard_Cranium
4/24/2007 11:40:04 PM
I too am a TopGlock satisfied customer... and like this crazy fool I used a Pawn Shop for the transaction! It was the least expensive way to handle the transaction! The truth has now come out and this sick F**K sould never have been able to purchase a gun anywhere! So it was the governments fault in this case for not protecting us form him! He should have been locked up, or at least put on a list as a threat to himself and others! I teach at a local college in SoCal, and I dont want to have to carry a concealed weapon to protect myself in a classroom, but if it comes down to it I will do so; legal or not!
I was also amazed at the way the media portrayed the Glock as a killing machine... RUBBISH! They sensationalized how quickly a Glock 9MM can unload a mag of 17 rds... Apparently none of these reporters has ever handled a gun!
IT WAS THIS CRAZY CHINESE MOFO, NOT THE GUN, WHO KILLED 32!
hp
4/24/2007 11:35:08 PM
Its sad to see you pulled into this, even after following the laws laid out for you to sell firearms. You are in no way at fault for the actions of a crazed individual. He could have just as easily crashed a speeding car into a crowded sporting event and killed just as many.
Now just think about this....if you had sold one more firearm, to one of the victims, who used it to kill the mad man, would you now be a hero?
I wonder how many of the responding law enforcement officers were carrying firearms purchased from you?
Good Luck with whats ahead, I think we (gun owners) are in for some rough times. God Bless you, keep up the good work in helping us protect ourselves.
fossil47
4/24/2007 11:30:24 PM
If a similar nutcase purchased a knife, or a car, then killed someone with it, would we lobby to stop the buying and sales of those items? I would think not. As a responsible gun owner, and a 25-year Army veteran, I know weapons and what they are capable of, and I respect them. I have a CCW permit and would do whatever it took to protect my family, my home, my property, and myself. I practice regularly on the range and otherwise keep my guns locked away from my six-year-old son. Over-reaction from this tragedy is fully expected - don't allow your rights to protect yourself be taken away. Support the Second Amendment.
There will always be thugs
4/24/2007 11:18:51 PM
If you have the unfortunately pleasure of having a home invasion.....don't worry, the police will arrive shortly to do the paperwork and take statements. That is if you survive the rape or stabbing.
Tony
4/24/2007 11:16:34 PM
My prayers go the victims and the familys involved in this terrible tragedy. The people that think banning guns is the way to go are crazy and ignorant. Think about it drugs are illegal everywhere yet they are all over the place. Really if I wanted to get some drugs all I would have to do is go to a certain area in town and I would be offered anything I want. if Cho wanted to get his hands on a gun he would have got his hands on one(legally, illegally). One way or the other to act out his senseless crime. The only thing banning guns would do is take it out of the hands of law abiding citizens to protect them selves and loved ones, they would be helpless when a mad man goes on a rampage just like on Virginia Tech!
Paul Feathers from OZ
4/24/2007 11:15:49 PM
I’m a proud Sporting Shooter & firearm owner in OZ, an active NRA Member & Top Glock customer. Since the sad events in your country I have been hounded by people that hate firearms. They hate the fact I shoot firearms, own firearms (including a Glock & Walther P22 Target), & they hate the fact I know more about firearm ownership then they do. These people are ill informed about firearm Legislation & they still don’t understand that people kill people not guns. I’m for tougher laws stopping illegal firearms & ways to lessen the availability of firearms to un-licensed people. Beating up the gun debate will not lessen the people out there bent on murder & violent crime. My heart goes out to those who lost loved ones in this terrible incident. What an absolute waste of life. We need to look at the individuals committing these crimes instead of just blaming a gun. Thanks Eric for your Statement & wish your family & company the very best. Looking forward to dealing with you again.
tom tom
4/24/2007 11:14:57 PM
the first time i hear about a child drowning in a swimming pool this summer i hope the authorities confiscate all the water hoses from law abiding citizens. God bless the second amendment
Vote Your 2nd Amendment Rights
4/24/2007 11:12:32 PM
Shankwood,
Did your city ban Axes? Was there a waiting period to buy axes after that? Background check?
paulT...
4/24/2007 11:10:07 PM
Our right to keep and bear arms is a very important part of or nations history. Keep up the great work and remember When guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns.
TN
4/24/2007 11:04:37 PM
I HAD A PROFESSOR IN COLLEGE WHO WAS A LIFE LONG NRA MEMBER. HE SAID HE HAS NEVER OWNED A GUN. HE FOLLOWED IT UP BY SAYING, "IF MY SECOND AMENDMENT GOES THEN SO WILL MY FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS." I HAVE NEVER FORGOTTEN THAT ADVICE. NEITHER SHOULD YOU. I LIVE IN A STATE THAT BELIEVES IN SELF PROTECTION AND THAT'S THE WAY WE VOTE!!!
shankwood
4/24/2007 11:00:43 PM
Several years ago a whole family in Villisca,Ia was killed by an ax murderer. He was never found. The ax is just a tool as a gun is a tool. Unfortunately the gun was in the wrong hands,but it was no fault of yours. It was puchased legally,but the system failed, so he could get the gun. By the way I just purchased a Glock 19 from you a little over a week ago,and its a great gun.
woody
4/24/2007 10:59:18 PM
i can't believe that u could even be draged into this,let lone be greived further as loving father&husband who's right to protect prperty&family,tru.the mud,who wouldn't feel bad for this sick kids actions,that's a given,but you don't change a great way of life,because of 1 bad apple,the right to bare arms is what makes the u.s.a.strong,if an evation should come i'd be glad to know my daughters&i can defend our home land&ourselves,in my eyes as a canadian, it's an amendment that should be adopted thru out the world,god bless those who lost so much,to bad some one there didn't have a gun,alot less lives may not have been lost,good luck&god speed!gary
TLJKC
4/24/2007 10:57:34 PM
I appreciate your straightforward and intelligent approach to facing this ordeal. It is tragic that every once in a long time a few individuals abuse their right to bear arms and then instead of the public placing the blame where it belongs (squarely on the shoulders of the perpetrator) they try and go after the gun industry/gun dealers (usually since there is no one else living to blame since the nuts usually are cowardly and commit suicide). I sincerely appreciate reponsible gun dealers such as yourself that take something like this head on and don't let the media rattle your resolve in our rights here in the U.S. The VA Tech shooting is a tragedy and the nation will mourn for the victims. This, however, should not become, like in the past, a sounding board or excuse for gun control individuals to use to try and take away rights of responsible citizens here in the U.S. Thanks you
Thomas Johnson
KC, Missouri
AFM Firearms
4/24/2007 10:49:43 PM
I am the owner of AFM. We are a manufacturer of firearms. I am an American and prior Military. I am glad to see there are still people with integrity in this country. The responsibility is not Top Glocks to bear. They conducted them selves well within the law. It lies with a mentally unstable individual who used tools to kill. The tools can not kill by them selves. It takes a human hand to operate and utilize. The issue is not Top Glock. It is the FACT that a mentally deficient person passed a back ground. Any reasonable person can see that. But wait and see what the anti-gunners come up with. They will use a senseless tragedy to fuel their own agenda. I am not sure what is worse...a wacko who kills for no reason or a politician who tries to rape our constitution for personal gain.
Wilt
4/24/2007 10:49:41 PM
I agree with what was said by the President of Top Glock. If any one else is to be at fault it should be the School Virginia Tech's fault as well. From what I have been hearing they dropped the ball by not looking in to and reporting the child to the law when they first found out he had issues. They should also look in to how the student got the gun on campus in the first place. But all in all guns don't kill it's the people that use them to kill. A person can use just about any thing to kill some one so you just can't fault guns. If we raise our kids up right we would not have to worry about this mess. One more person to blame the parents.
TN 2nd Amen Rights
4/24/2007 10:45:52 PM
I feel very lucky to live in a state that lets me carry for self defense. My wife and I both on Glocks and I have a P-22 for target practice. I purchased these guns because of there accuracy. Top Glock has served the gun buying public well. I pray for the hurting families at VT. I hope that laws will some day be passed so us the safe and carring and legal conceal carry owners are allowed to be armed where ever we go as maybe one of us can stop a mad man like Cho Seung-Hui from ever happing again. Join the NRA, help the cause.
rifleman
4/24/2007 10:43:24 PM
Gday all
as a shooter from australia a understand your sentiments and offer my condolences to the victims and thier families.
Im not sure if you all know of the port arthur massacre the happened here in 1996 where a similar derranged bloke shot 35 people ,hes now rotting in jail and our PM spent 500 million bucks buying back all our semi auto rifles and pump action shotguns. this achived nothing then they limited pistols ect we have people here who have seized on your tragedy to try and have all our guns banned.
at least your laws let you defend yourselfs and your property if we do that here we the defender go to jail and the crim walks.
bob
4/24/2007 10:39:23 PM
My heart goes out to all the victims and survivors that had to endure that madness. All the people that blame the guns are just not right. Its not the guns fault. There is always some crazy that abuses something. Drunk driving is never blamed on the car or drinks. Its the person that is responsible for his or her actions. The same should take place here.
Joel from Texas
4/24/2007 10:25:56 PM
The gun was bought legally and I appreciate you not taking the silent approach with your defense in the media. I support your business( I ordered a Glock from you today) and family (you will be in our prayers).
M RogerJolly
4/24/2007 10:22:47 PM
You are a reputable merchant who participated in a lawful transaction. Your responsibility ends there. You are no more culpable than the car dealer who sells a car to someone who gets drunk and causes a fatal accident.
LOGICAL_THINKING
4/24/2007 10:21:37 PM
So you anti-gun idiots want to ban guns because someone used a gun to kill innocent people? What next - why not a BAN ON MATCHES and LIGHTERS because an arson killed 30 people in an apartment fire? Why not a ban on alcohol because some drunk ran over your pet skunk? Get your head out of your rear and experience the real world. TopGlock is the best. NRA and proud of it!
joe doaks
4/24/2007 10:19:11 PM
Sirs, You didn't -have- to say anything. It is a mark of your integrity that you chose to. I second the sentiment expressed previously that, while our prayers are with victims and survivors, we should also remain mindful of lives saved and criminals stopped or put to flight by good men with guns, including some supplied by you. Best wishes.
We love you VT
4/24/2007 10:17:15 PM
My last post. Self-protection is a right, not an option. Thank God and our fore fathers for the U.S. Constitution. Our thoughts and prayers are with the families of VT.
WV4ME
4/24/2007 10:15:38 PM
I've read all of the comments from top to bottom, and then back again. The majority of the folks express sympathy for the families of those tragically killed. Others (the narrow minded idiots) want to place blame on TGS, law abiding citizens, or anyone else they can impose thier self-righteous gun control views upon. I have personally been assaulted by a knife wielding thief and his two thug friends. Had I not been in possession of a handgun, I could have been another crime statistic you anti-gunners often overlook. Good luck to TopGlock and Eric. I shall remain a loyal supporter and customer!
AmericanWithGun
4/24/2007 10:14:36 PM
Forget the donations! It is time to buy two Glocks. Every concerned citizen who is legal should purchase a new pistol from TopGlock. This does two things. Keeps TopGlock in business and helps protect your family. What are we coming to? I am buying now.
We love you VT
4/24/2007 10:08:22 PM
P.S. Didn't we ban cocaine about 100 years ago? I guess thugs didn't get the memo on that either. Only law-abiding citizens follow laws. Hell, if Cho was banned from purchasing a gun he could have just walked it across the Mexican boarder (with drugs) and saved on the shipping.
Scott
4/24/2007 10:06:05 PM
To those who wish to blame the gun, there are over 200,000,000 guns in America, yet only about 0.00005% of them are used by murderers. How about trying to blame the murderer for once, instead of an inanimate object? As a longtime TopGlock customer, I appreciate what you're doing, but we must realize that there is absolutely no blame to be placed on you or Roanoke Firearms for this incident. If anything, let's address the quality of information being forwarded to the NICS. Feel free to read more of my thoughts on this matter at aleckson.blogspot.com where I have been venting on the gun control issue for the last week.
Tricky Dick
4/24/2007 10:04:44 PM
What a bunch of boneheads, Cant anyone see that not allowing guns on the campus.
1. Doesn't work
2. Keeps Law abiding Americans from protecting themselves.
This nut job ended up killing himself because no one there was allowed to carry a weapon and put him down.
The government and administrators cant and wont protect us.
For crying out loud at least give a chance to protect our selves and our fellow Americans.
JMarkish
4/24/2007 10:02:46 PM
DO not hold any guilt for yourselves at TopGlock. If not you, then someone else would have "legally" sold that gun to that nutcase. The ones responsible for this tragedy are the ones that fail to provide ALL relevent information for a THOROUGH AND COMPLETE background check. This is where the system failed; this is where the blame lies. My thoughts and prayers to all the victims, families, and friends.
We love you VT
4/24/2007 10:02:02 PM
LET'S KEEP AMERICA SAFE. ONLY COPS AND CRIMINALS SHOULD HAVE GUNS!
ConcernedPatriot
4/24/2007 9:59:12 PM
Virginia Tech is a great example of how a tool was used in the wrong way. A TOOL, the shooter used a knife - did the media go after the knife industry? - Cameras - the shooter used several cameras - did the media go after the Camera industry? If the shooter was a law abiding citizen he would NOT have carried his firearm on the school campus. It is obvious that the REAL law abiding citizens were the victims. WAKE UP AMERICA! WAKE UP! The Liberals Are Coming! The Liberals Are Coming! Stay on topside TopGlock WE NEED YOU AND PEOPLE LIKE YOU!
A Concerned Patriot
Our prayers go out to the shooters family and the shooting victims.
protects my family
4/24/2007 9:57:47 PM
People need to realize that law enforcement no longer protects you or your family. Ask any officer. They are there to create the report and investigate the crime. Those who are mentally ill, impaired by drugs, or the new breed of so-called "super preditors" who will kill you without remorse for your possessions or for being in the wrong place at the wrong time do not care about gun laws. the average armed confrontation lasts under 90 seconds. The police will not be there. Be well armed, train with professionals on a regular basis, and think in advance about what you are willing to do to protect yourself, your family, and others around you. Good luck my fellow law abiding Americans.
Jimmy
4/24/2007 9:48:01 PM
I feel for the VT victims and their families and pray for them. Nothing would have stopped that mass murderer from hurting people, if not guns, then knifes, then sticks, rocks, fists, ink pens...whatever.
mac
4/24/2007 9:44:48 PM
I remember an old bumper sticker "an armed society is a polite society"This nut, murderer new he could get away with it because there would be no one to stop him ....In San Diego,CA
after the McDonalds Massacre the police decided they would never wait again,and take the fight to the person with the gun.So "they will shoot at us and not the kids".Soon there was a shooting at a high school the police ran into school and disarmed the sick student before he killed anyone.
America,Home of the brave.We all need to be brave for our families.
RAM
4/24/2007 9:43:14 PM
Bottom line... the licensed dealer does the background check. This sale was done by the book. Two questions... (1) Why are we allowing any firearms to be be purchased by non-US citizens? (2) This is a problem with the check... he was deemed unstable and it never made it to the system.
Just a thought... just think if more law abiding citizens carried firearms. Wouldn't that deter criminals? I'm ready, are you?
America the Best Country EVER!
4/24/2007 9:41:23 PM
If a Liberal were being stabbed and/or raped would he or she use a firearm if available to stop their rape or murder?
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Rosie O’Donnell says Americans should not have guns, period. Then admitted she has armed bodyguards for her familys protection. That's a liberal for ya. Sheryl Crow says to use 1 sheet of toilet paper while she lives in a mansion. That's a liberal for ya. Al Gore lives in a bigger mansion while using limos and says we need to use less oil. That's a liberal for ya. John Travolta flies his own private airliner and says Americans need to cut back. That's a liberal for ya. Do as I say and not as I do is the liberal way.
TG
4/24/2007 9:36:49 PM
Virginia Tech is a PERFECT example of how a firearm can be used illegally, and the consequences of being legally unable to protect yourself based on idiotic laws. The only people that really have the blood on their hands besides the killer, are the people of Virginia that enacted laws that prohibited all of these innocent people from being able to protect themselves.
Stand tall Top Glock, it is your country.
TN Cares
4/24/2007 9:33:46 PM
Sorry to hear TGS is in a situation to feel so defensive. Folks who have a little common sense know better than to point fingers. You (TGS) and the firearm manufactures are not reponsible for the actions of individuals nor are you responsible for ignorant individuals and institutions that promote "gun-free zones"... so psychos can murder unarmmed innocent people. Sleep well tonight, I will... my neighbors carry, too.
Gun lover 4ever
4/24/2007 9:30:59 PM
I hate people that post such ignorant ass remarks such as K on 4/24/2007 9:13:20 PM. Nobody could have forseen this dumbass. Someone needs to knock some sense in you. Your remarks are unfounded! If only there was a student there who had a CHL and VT did not have a gun ban, so many lives could have been saved that day. I know if I was there and packing, I would have stopped him. But I do agree that The lesson to be learned regards the treatment of mentally ill people and the reporting procedure to the federal database that allows such people to purchase firearms.
Mike
4/24/2007 9:28:34 PM
To all those voice their negative opinions on gun control:
Why do you think you are allowed to speak your mind and voice your opinion, regardless of how idiotic it may be? Its because of the 1st Amendment. And why do you think the 1st Amendment exists? Because of the 2nd Amendment. If The People did not have "the right to keep and bear arms", you'd be living a life with no Liberty. If thats the way you want to live, to Europe.
Anonymous
4/24/2007 9:27:17 PM
People who plan to kill others will not be stoped by restricting law abiding cititzens from possesing and carrying firearms. Madmen and murderers are out there, and ALWAYS will be. To deny this fact would make you one more sheep in the vast flock who would rather live thier live's unprepared for situations that CAN and WILL arise. Think about it when you are at the park or in the grocery store, when that madman comes in hellbent waving around a semi auto, won't you be happy when the man next to you buying milk or swinging his son in a swing steps up and neutrlizes the threat of you or your loved ones being harmed?
tyler202
4/24/2007 9:26:29 PM
This is a horrible tragity, but i beleive in no way was this you or your companies fault, you all followed every precaution and followed the law to the T. Tell the people that have a problem with you guys that they need to take a trip to texas and we will take care of the matter.
Good luck
Self Protection is a Right
4/24/2007 9:22:01 PM
I have been completely happy with my service from TGSCOM. I also had no idea Cho had bought the gun from you. But who cares!! The news media as well as the Liberals didn't blame Timothy McVeigh's crime on the Ryder Truck Company or the fertilizer company after he made the bomb. If this nut Cho would have used gasoline bombs would it have changed his mass murderer status. The blame game........
QUESTION: IF BRITAIN HAS BANNED MOST EVERYONE FROM OWNING GUNS THEY WHY DO THEIR POLICE STILL CARRY PISTOLS? ANSWER: THE CRIMINALS DIDN'T GET THE MEMO YOU %^&* LIBERALS.
slayden davis
4/24/2007 9:13:49 PM
this tragedy is in no way your fault. you did everything by the book. And just because he was a sick sick person you are not to blam
stay strong and keep up the good work
slayden davis
Euless tx
K
4/24/2007 9:13:20 PM
Eric Thompson, I hope that you are held accountable for the deaths of the students at Virginia Tech. Rationalise it all you want, but their blood is on your hands.
Brian B
4/24/2007 9:08:38 PM
This was a tragedy any way you look at it! People need to first look at things a little different. If we are going to ban guns because of this one unstable person, should we ban cars because individuals that are drunk drive them???? The state of Virginia needed to do a better background check but there again maybe they would have been infringing on his rights. Those same people complaining about Cho Seung-Hui. Getting the gun would also complain about him not getting it if it wasn’t sold to him. The responsible falls on the person possessing the gun not the gun company not the retail outlet or anyone else. He made the decision to kill those unarmed college students that day NO ONE ELSE! God Bless
NO1MRC
4/24/2007 9:07:42 PM
Your company should in no way feel responsible for the acts of a deranged mad man. My heart and prayers go out to the innocent.
seeker
4/24/2007 9:06:38 PM
Once again the people who are in charge of our learning institutions have demonstrated their inability to deal with crime or anti-social behaviour,even when warned by their own staff,and the police being social janitors have to sweep after the fact,not being able to prevent anything,because no crime was commited before,the blame should be placed not with law abiding people but with the people in charge who did nothing but make it easier for innocent people to be slaughterd,perhaps they should be regulated more.
AZ MALE
4/24/2007 9:02:52 PM
Let us restate the "rules of engagement" with evil. Gun free zones have no rules for engagement with evil. My thoughts and prayers are for the victims and the victims families and VT family, in their grief and sorrow. Gun free zones extend an invitation not security. I still want to know why that $15.00 trigger lock didn't work as advertised as a preventive safety measure to the mentally ill. God Bless you all. My best to TGS and their families and employees.
Richard
4/24/2007 9:01:34 PM
Guns don't kill people. People kill people. We have all the laws we need, just need to enforce them. End of the story.
john B
4/24/2007 8:57:07 PM
Making guns illegal would just put them in the same category as bombs. People will continue to use either in their attempt to harm others. Maybe the finger should start pointing at the people instead of scapegoating firearms. Anti-firearm enthusiasts are those who seek to put a ban on anything and everything until there is nothing left (so much for having freedoms).
grinder2g
4/24/2007 8:54:58 PM
Almost forgot. The only people/organization that should be held responsible for this incident is the government of Virginia and the Feds that don;t enforce their own laws. Had this Cho character been subject to the laws and regulations that the Brady Bill supporters had passed, this mentally unstable individual should have never been able to acquire one gun, let alone TWO!
Hawkeye
4/24/2007 8:54:51 PM
Eric - Thank you for bringing us - TopGlock - and its associated services. It is indeed unfortunate that you are so closely linked to this tragedy. As a previous satisfied customer of yours I feel that offering words of encouragement to you is the least one can do. Contrary to what one hears from the vocal majority, I have found gun owners to be among the most peace-loving people I've ever met, and establishments such as TopGlock to be the most trustworthy businesses to deal with over the Internet. And I will continue to support those who provide such services as long as they are are around to do business with. Carry on! Very Best Regards - - - Hawkeye
Anarchy671 from Guam
4/24/2007 8:49:44 PM
I do not beleive that Glock or any firearm manufacturer should be held responsible for what happens after the friearm is puchased and all of the "FEDERAL" background checks are completed. I am a Glock owner, and to hold a manufacturer responsible for this tragedy totally ludricus. It is the person not the weapon that kills. A weapon does not have a mind of its own. In my 24 years as a police officer I have seen many tragedies involving firearms, but never once did a loaded unattended firearm ever kill or injure anyone. To use this tragedy as a stepping stone for some politician to enforce stricted gun laws is infinging on our second amendment rights.
grinder2g
4/24/2007 8:49:13 PM
I fully endorse and support all gun regulation and restriction, as long as it doesn't infringe on MY rights as a law abiding citizen in this country. I don't agree that the government can arm hundreds of thousands of military members to go fight for oil in a war that was a sham from the start, yet they will attempt to restrict my right to defend myself and my family. I am the proud owner of three Glock pistols, all of which were obtained legally and are carried legally. My wife used to be one of those anti-gunners, but gained respect after I purchased my pistols. After the shooting in Troy, MI a couple of weeks ago, which was only two buildings over from where she works, she will be obtaining her CCW also. My peace be with the victims and the families of those who have perished due to the select few who abuse their rights to responsible gun practices, and my the flag fly high and proud over those of us who practice safe and responsible firearm ownership!
let's be respectful
4/24/2007 8:48:20 PM
kjdksj, there's no need to be vulgar. That's the same kind of hatred and absence of tolerance that led to this tragedy. Please voice your opinion tactfully, or refrain from typing. You'll learn that people respond to reason and intelligence, not profanity and rudeness. You are welcome to disagree with us, but please do so respectfully. Eric, keep your chin up. You are not responsible for what happened. One of the Glocks I purchased from you may save my life or the life of someone I love one day.
Smallbizpro
4/24/2007 8:41:36 PM
HB 1572 in the Virginia legislature would have allowed concealed carry permit holders to be able to carry on Virginia colleges. It may have helped reduce the deaths. "Gun Free Zones" create an atmosphere that encourages criminals and psychopaths. We need to end the PC mentality and refuse to be a victim. The Brady Campaign is using this incident as a fundraising effort. The first screen into their web site is an appeal to donate based on the VT shooting. Isn't that the lowest form of disgusting behaviour?
voice of reason
4/24/2007 8:35:12 PM
If you think a gun ban would be effective, just examine drug trafficking. CNN had an article just yesterday about a 20 ton cocaine seizure off the coast of Panama. And yet somehow we still have cocaine in US schools and households? However can that be? It's simple: if there's a market for it, the unlawful WILL obtain it, and banning Object-X will accomplish nothing. Therefore, we arm our citizens and our children with information about how to avoid drug-related criminals, and the drugs, themselves. We teach them to fight back by saying "no," cliché as it may be. Unfortunately, we can fight back against a 1200 fps bullet only by firing our own first, as "no" does not intimidate lead; and we can only defend ourselves if we are armed, educated, practiced, prepared, and have exhausted every other avenue of resolution. I just completed my CCW course with a Glock 27 purchased from Glockworld, and will receive my license in a few weeks. I hope I never need to defend myself with it.
voice of reason
4/24/2007 8:34:38 PM
Let's be honest. Glockworld and JND are not to blame for this. Guns are bought and sold by private parties every day. No one who wants a hand gun has to go through an FFL, unless, of course, they want to do so lawfully. So what's the knee-jerk solution? How about banning all guns? As in UK's scenario, not even our police would have guns. It's no wonder UK's shooting rates are comparatively so low. All their criminals have to do is wander in and take or do what they want. Who's to stop them?
TJA
4/24/2007 8:28:09 PM
People kill people! The weapon to be used is the choice of the bad guys. Cho didn't have to use guns. What if he had used Samurai swords? He could have done this and more!! It is not the gun's fault!!!!!!!!!!!
chewy
4/24/2007 8:28:04 PM
If a drunk driver hurts someone in a car accident, they blame the driver.
If a lunatic kills someone with a gun, they blame the gun.
What the hell is wrong with these people?
The spoon did not make Rosie O'Donnell fat. Blame Rosie for being a pig, leave the spoon alone!!!!!!!
Tony
4/24/2007 8:22:25 PM
The firearm is a tool. Just like a hammer, or a pair of pliers, it can beused constuctively to protect life and provide sustenance, or it can be perverted by the sick mind of an individual. Thelaw did not fail...YOU did not fail. The sick bastard that pulled the trigger failed. The ivory tower university teachers failed to act when they KNEW he was sick. Don't beat yourself up because you sold the tool...YOU did NOTHING wrong.
Our second amendment rights cannot take a back seat to liberal scapegoating and attempts to control the populace they are SWORN to serve.
Redneck Democrat
4/24/2007 8:16:42 PM
Anyone that's been to a Gun Show knows the deal!
If Cho didn't buy it online he'da bought it black or grey market. Hell, I purhased 15 round magazines at a gun show after the ban!!!
If our "government" takes our guns away, the only people with guns would be the government and criminals. I'm not sure I'd feel safe that way! Thanks for standing up for our 2nd amendment rights! That guy from England is cute. They're still in a Civil War! Mebbe that's why they took their guns away?
Beezer
4/24/2007 8:14:25 PM
If those students & professors had concealed weapons permits and were armed themselves they would have had a fighting chance. We all need to remember a gun does not kill unless someone pulls the trigger. The criminal or mentally deficient person will always be able to obtain a gun no matter how stringent the laws are.
seabee 1972
4/24/2007 8:14:16 PM
I am a Texan. That should be enough said on what my thoughts are for gun control. You have a right for self preservation, and just remember: "guns dont kill people, people kill people."
BoneDog
4/24/2007 8:13:26 PM
As I read this statement from an article on the Internet, I thought to myself, "You know what? This guy hit the nail right on the head." What had this author said that proves so true? As I paraphrase, "Gun Free Zones are the most dangerous places on Earth." All I can say to the rabid gun-banning liberals who would rather see folks die than give them the right to protect themselves is, "Get a clue! Wait till the shoe is on YOUR foot, then see how fast you whine for protection that isn't there." Just look at the run on gun stores after 9/11, by many, including, dare I say it, "former" gun banners.
Christian Haas
4/24/2007 8:10:19 PM
I think the people who use weapons for horific things should be punished past the extent of the law. I my self own a glock 27 and firmly belive in gun control. My belives in gun control are that any give should posses a firearm on them at all times to defend property and person alike.
L Wolf
4/24/2007 8:10:15 PM
My heart goes out the parents for there losses.The media is always hungry for news they can report and sit back to watch the fire rage they start.I live in Il and as you may or may not know Gov. Rod Blagojevick is trying to shut down 3 Armories for manufacturing a certain firearm.I saw tonight 2 are already moving or about to,even tho the bill has not been signed.I believe too many people are ignorant of the reason we have a life as we do and what role the firearm has played so they may complain.I believe it is easier for them to do so rather than read a few good books for the learning experience,much easier to hit the enter button on the microwave while they blame the mentally ill for such acts.The Lt. Gov. of Il said the best words in defense for the firearm industry,20 yrs ago the switchblade was outlawed but the stabbings continue,the closings will only take money to other states.
Ciampa
4/24/2007 8:10:07 PM
Mr Thompson, Is doing everything "by the books" and following "regulations" really enough when it comes to selling guns? Such rationalisations are so weak and self-serving. "What else could we have done, we went by the books." Translation: We did the least we had to do to sell guns legally. Maybe if gun dealers were more liable for where their guns ended up, they would be more selective of who they sell them to. For you to sit back and say let's focus on the families is such crap. This might have been avoided if most guns were even a little harder to purchase, and semi automatic guns even more so.
Jerseycitysteve
4/24/2007 8:08:02 PM
Eric, my friend, stay strong!
Malone
4/24/2007 8:07:51 PM
IN THE HANDS OF A MAD MAN, A PEN CAN BE A INSTRUMENT OF DEATH.I HAVE USED MY CAR KEYS TO CAUSED GREAT PAIN ON PEOPLE WHO TRIED TO HARM ME BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN TRAINED TO DO SO. WHAT NEXT? GONNA TAKE AWAY MY CAR AND LET ME ROLLER BLADE TO WORK? GREAT JOB GUYS -- BE STRONG.
Gator
4/24/2007 8:01:03 PM
Hasn't anyone set down and wondered why we always go back to the criminals will always have guns? Some crazy kills innocent people, we talk about the cause and we go back to the criminals will always have guns. How about focusing on keeping the guns from the criminals. You will start worrying about criminals and guns when criminals no longer have money to pay for them.
Horseman
4/24/2007 7:55:27 PM
People like kjdks and his Gun Control cronies don't have a clue as to what goes on in the Real World. In his world, each and every person would have to have a policeman by his side 24 hrs a day 7 days a week for protection. If one responsable person would have had a gun and had used it that day, several lives would have been saved. People like Cho are going to kill with whatever the can get their hands on. If not a gun, a knife, axe, baseball bat or something else. The Gun killed nobody. The asshole pulling the trigger is the one that killed.
kjdm
4/24/2007 7:55:17 PM
kjdksj is an idiot.
cowboybull
4/24/2007 7:53:26 PM
I guess nobody seems to be interested in the concept that, had a student with a legal CCL been allowed to carry on campus, the death toll may have been far lower. Here in Texas I can carry into a bank but I can't take my gun to school. This seems counter-intuitive; apparently we (Texas) didn't learn from our own incident a few years back at UT in the bell tower. In that case a CCL carrier could have offered very little assistance; in the case of Tech, the guy went door-to-door. One has to wonder if the outcome would have been different had a CCL holder been carrying in the next room over when it all started... How many lives could have been saved?
I guess Universities still haven't learned that there is never a cop around when you need one!
NO OFFENSE TO OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT; It's not your fault it is the administration's.
COWBOYBULL - University of Houston: Houston, Texas
a_real_american
4/24/2007 7:50:13 PM
Having worked in the mental health field for three years, I can tell you that it's almost impossible to keep someone that's mentally ill from purchasing a firearm or from driving LEGALLY! I know one person that killed two people in an auto accident when he freaked out while driving an automobile. I didn't hear any ASSHOLES condemn the driver like I'm hearing now because some lunatic decided to go on a shooting spree after LEGALLY purchasing a gun. These people that are screaming for tighter gun control are the same ASSHOLES that scream when they feel one of their rights are being violated. What a perfect world we would live in if nobody needed guns. But for now, they'll take my guns from my cold dying hands only. GO TOPGLOCK!!!
thom4
4/24/2007 7:46:42 PM
i am a big fan of your company and the fair prices. i'll be stocking up with more product in the wake of this mess. i believe there will be attempts to further restrict firearms. i can only make sure my vote counts when these issues come forward. my community is getting more dangerous not less. no one can protect me but me and i will if i have to. i sorry you guys had to be dragged into this mess...you don't deserve it.
BBGBILL
4/24/2007 7:41:34 PM
As a resident of Blacksburg, VA. (approximately 1 1/4 miles from Norris Hall)A VA. CCW permit holder and a customer of yours (Accessories) and Roanoke Firearms (rifles, and pistols), I've seen the professionalism with which you've both conducted your business, adhered to the law, and acted in good faith. I will continue to be a customer of both your shops.
Boss
4/24/2007 7:37:17 PM
The VA tech incident is a perfect example of how gun free zones create turkey shoots. I wish I could carry on my college campus, but liberals would never actually consider thinking about how to combat these kinds of incidents with logic.
Fatass
4/24/2007 7:33:07 PM
Typical misdirected anger from the un-ill-informed minority.
The effort should be directed towards finding and stoping the mentally ill, not the gun, from hurting others and themselves.
JD
4/24/2007 7:32:48 PM
I guess since you sell guns then you are as bad as the Killer, then as the old saying goes all women are Whores because they have the Equipment. It is all in how things are used and in this case a useful item was used by a Phsyco, don't let the Bastards get you down.
Another Free Citizen
4/24/2007 7:27:58 PM
Same here, I wonder over the years how many people you helped live a longer life with their families.
skidad618
4/24/2007 7:26:54 PM
Did any one of the "Gun Grabbers" Ever stop to think what could have happened In this horrible incident, had a law abiding citizen been armed with a Concealed Carry Permit? It sure is strange that not one of them could defend their side of the issue with that.I believe It Is a persons right to "Conceal Carry" having just completed my classroom and range tests,I came to learn a couple of things. Number one Is alway's be aware of your surroundings,Two, just because you have a permit to carry does not come with a "Junior G Man Badge" And finally to use your weapon only after you have exhausted every other avenue.After that Game On!!
In closing rest assured that "Cho" will forever be burning In Hell,First for murdering his fellow man,and second for taking his own life!!
In Deepest Sympathy For The Lost & Profound congratulations to the guy's and girls of Top Glock,You have done nothing wrong.
Free Citizen
4/24/2007 7:26:33 PM
Not your fault and nothing you could have done. I wonder how many people you actually saved?
SSB
4/24/2007 7:26:28 PM
Ignore the idiots out there like kjdksj. People with those opinions will never understand. People like kjdksj truly believe that the Police will be there IMMEDIATELY when you call. People like kjdksj truly believe that a 90 pound woman's only defense from he 200 pound rapist is 911. They will never understand. Keep running a clean, lawful business. Thanks!
Brian
4/24/2007 7:17:48 PM
You are a responsible dealer caught in the web of lies and agendas of the so called talking head experts. None of them have a clue about personal responsibility. He the ******** fill in as you like. Was responsible for the actions along with the 2 other parties. The college police /administration for not locking down the School. The va mental health system for failing to treat him. The fBi assumed responsibility for college sftey under new law in 2006. They advised local pd not to enter school or search after initial call event. They would arrive and investigate during which time further events happened. You are not responsible.
Anonymous
4/24/2007 7:16:00 PM
You will always have my support. It's election time and politician are using VT tragedy to boost their votes. Hundreds of studies have shown strict gun control does not reduce crime rate. Stand your grounds.
Anonymous
4/24/2007 7:14:47 PM
Cars driven by drunk people don't kill people, drunk drivers kill people. The gas station who sold the gasoline to those monks protesting the Vietnam war were not responsible for thier deaths. The pilot who let those terrorist into the cockpit had no idea they were going to bring down two skyscrapers. Any wack job can, if properly motivated, always find a way to harm others. You did nothing wrong.
mjamesbuckley
4/24/2007 7:14:30 PM
In response to kjdksj, go back and stick your head in the sand you stupid shit. I hope one of us saves your life one day!
Anthony - Michigan
4/24/2007 7:10:08 PM
I'm encouraged by the responces here and elsewhere, that the Second Amendment will survive! We need to continue to be heard - contact you representatives at every level of government and tell them to support our right to protect ourselves! Gun laws/bans only allow these kinds of tradjedies by sick and deranged people. More guns equal LESS crime. Even the CDC has the statistics! Speak up, be safe, be careful, carry!
kjdksj
4/24/2007 7:09:12 PM
get a FUCKING clue. and get out of this business. you may not be killers, but you are obviously helping them. you are partially, even more than partially, to blame. when someone uses the gun that they purchase from you to kill people. I hope you have remorse and you also have blood on your hands.
therightright
4/24/2007 7:07:45 PM
I am very sorry for your position in todays America,in which some (too many) blame everyone but the guilty. You are absolutely not at fault here. My Niece is a student at VT and lost a friend to this nut. The blame of this lies squarely on the shooter and the crowd that protests the defining and teaching of right from wrong/good from evil and has taken God out of our schools, contrary to the beliefs of the founders of this country.Political correctness, instead of teaching right from wrong is going to be our demise. Keep defending the 2nd Amendment, it may be the last resort for the good, law abiding Americans to defend themselves from the treason and tyranny of the communist left.
Rich in CA
4/24/2007 7:06:41 PM
To those who think TGSCOM is responsible, where is your head. I can obviously tell it's up you A**. As an owner of several handguns, rifles, and shotguns (one of which was bought from TGS), I find those that think handguns have only one reason to exist, "To kill people" are extremely ignorant. I have a 45ACP placed to protect myself in case of an intruder, and will only use it as a last resort. TGSCOM, keep up the good work. I refer people to your web site all the time. You guys rock. Thank you
Tony in California
4/24/2007 7:06:35 PM
Drunk driver kills someone with his car, we blame the driver.
Crazy gunman kills someone with his gun, we blame the gun.
How in the world did it come to that?
While there will be many people trying to take advantage of this horrible situation to push their own agenda; rest assured that the majority of Americans are finally starting to see the light and realize that it isn't the tool that does the killing.
American Eagle
4/24/2007 7:04:30 PM
"The trouble with our Liberal friends is not that they're ignorant: It's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan
I fully support our 2nd Amendment & its supporters. God Bless!
RSM in Louisiana
4/24/2007 7:04:01 PM
I am an occasional customer of your Company, and appreciate your open and honest response to the BATF, media, and others concerning this tragedy. As many others have stated, your Company followed the law of the land and did nothing wrong. The responsibility for these tragic deaths and injuries lies solely on the sick individual who plotted, planned, and carried out this act of terror. And, had some of the students or faculty been able to exercise their right to bear arms, the outcome may have been much different. I really believe that. God Bless You and your staff, the families of the VT victims, and our great nation.
StarLynx
4/24/2007 7:02:13 PM
It seems that all the dimwitted un-informed fools like the "/JQPublic/Rosie O/Hillary/Hypocrites with fully armed bodyguards" fail to realise that one armed person in the midst of these attrocities..could have stopped the perps.Why is it that the states/sectors with the highest crimerate while using a gun/weapon are the states with the most restrictive gunlaws???We don't need more laws or even more LE personal..we need to enforce the old laws that were created to proptect the innocent..Geez!
Bjon72
4/24/2007 7:01:43 PM
It's common sense.Gun's alone cannot kill! But when mentally unstable people get there hand's on a firearm anything can and most likly will happen!
Waynester
4/24/2007 7:01:14 PM
Oh ya, one more thing. Had someone had a gun to defend themselves, perhaps 32 innocent kids wouldnt have been murdered. Just like the Luby's in Kelline, TX. where the guy ran his truck into Lubys and started shooting people. NO ONE had a gun to stop the murderer. Bet ya if the fools against guns had someone save their life by a person with a handgun license to carry they would change their mind real quick.
whenmonkeysfly
4/24/2007 7:00:50 PM
Today more than ever, people need their Second Amendment Right to possess a gun for their personal safety. If one student or facility member had had a concealed weapon (legally) on the campus of Virginia Tech, they could have potentially stopped the tragedy that happened there. Criminals and lunatics will obtain and use firearms regardless of laws, but why limit law abiding citizens the right to protect themselves and/or possibly save the lives of others? -Jay M., Tallahassee, Florida.
mjamesbuckley
4/24/2007 6:59:00 PM
Gun free zones are the problem. Trolley Square Gun Free. Virinia Tech Gun Free. All School Shootings Gun Free. What is the problem with people that do not understand this. They all think that if we allow guns to be carried in these areas it will become the wild west with everyone carrying guns. Not the truth only a few will actually cary and they will be able to stop incedents like this from happening. I just dont understand the thinking of these people that think this wont help. I live in Utah and we can now carry on campuses and i am proud of it. Thanks for yout time.
Mike
Waynester
4/24/2007 6:57:22 PM
What if he would have used a knife instead, bow and arrow or some other means of killing? What... blame Walmart for selling that product? Everyone wants to blame the weapon or whatever sold it to them instead of realizing who is to really blame. The person who committed the crime. There is no one to blame but the person that did the crime. Could have used a hammer, so lets blame Home Depot for selling it to him. The guy was a psyco and thats that. Make the gun laws tuffer, your just making harder for the law abiding citizen to defend themselves. You think a criminal cares of the gun is illegal?
Wally P
4/24/2007 6:56:49 PM
Amen on your statement,it's the person NOT the gun, gun's don't kill it the indiviual behind the weapon.
Chris
4/24/2007 6:51:15 PM
It is very noble for you to donate to the VA Tech memorial fund. As a graduated university student at a school close by to Tech and having spent many nights there I feel the pain of the community. Being a Glock owner I am proud to be able to defend myself. Keep up the honest work.
dcsOHIO
4/24/2007 6:50:51 PM
If people like JOHN Q. PUBIC and VALERIE are not gun people, why are they reading this blog?
People like them and trying to put you down. It must be just to make them feel like adults, mabe?
I have owned a Glock 19 and a P-22 for years and they have never shot anybody!!
Jeff in Michigan
4/24/2007 6:49:56 PM
I am a legal carrier of firearms and have always said that for the most part we are not allowed to carry in places most likely to need them. Had someone with a CPL/CCW and carring in class that day. They could have easly stopped the violent actions that occured. I hope to never use a firearm, but would not hesitate in a situation like that. You can never be sure that someone will use a firearm before it's sold, but you can be sure that without his choice of weapons, it could have easly been an axe or a knife or whatever. It's not the firearm, it's how it's used.
Be safe and legal and all is well.....
Wayne W
4/24/2007 6:44:21 PM
To: John Q Public. Unwilling to put your name by what you believe in? COWARD!
I do sleep well! with a 45 holstered in my headboard.
Call the Police and wait you Pansy lib...
Wally in Ga.
4/24/2007 6:42:25 PM
I stand with you brother.Gun free zones are the reason this
was possible. If just one person had pulled out their glock,
maybe this freak could have been put down.
lebel16
4/24/2007 6:41:34 PM
Dear Sir:
I am an NRA life member and own many handguns and rifles. What separates this great country from others is our Second Amendment, and our freedom. I live in Maryland, where we have (unfortunately), rather strict gun laws. You have done nothing wrong and obeyed the laws of your State when you sold the guns to Ho.You are the unfortunate (and easy) victim of the liberal press and also, sadly, of the local police and other professionals who had previous dealings with Ho, and, in my opinion, failed tragically by not taking prompt action to protect society from such a psychopath. They had many warning signs. My thoughts are with you through these difficult times, and, as I can see, there are many other good, freedom loving, peaceful Americans who are behind you as well.
God Bless.
Stan
4/24/2007 6:38:41 PM
Best wishes guys, it is not your job to control lunatics.
This was a failure of the health service and communication with the law enforcement!
NewGlockOwner
4/24/2007 6:26:37 PM
I work in the Tennessee Department of Corrections and I am here to tell you that line we all know to well, guns don't kill people....the sick sadistic pricks who buy them do. You as a retailer have no idea of what a person is going to do when they purchase a weapon from you. The fact I know for sure is that I am surrounded by inmates all day long and I can tell you this for a fact some of them know what they did is wrong, some don't. Of the ones who know their actions were wrong, don't blame the guns they used, they blame themselves as they should, you didn't pull the trigger, he did. You do a great service for all of us Glock owners...keep up the good work. I plan to order from you soon!
George
4/24/2007 6:26:16 PM
Eric,
I purchased my Glock 19 from you a couple of years ago. My sons and I have had a lot of fun making holes in paper targets at the range. It is a very nice pistol.
My TopGlock gun hasn't attacked anyone and never will. It's an inanimate object. However, in my hands, it can be used to resist evil acts like those committed by Cho Seung-Hui.
Iraq Veteran & Democrat
4/24/2007 6:23:48 PM
I commend you for being such a stand-up man, and not trying to hide from the uninformed reactionists. You have nothing to hide from! Your reputable, well-respected, legally compliant company has been unfairly and irrationally targeted by gun-blaming simpletons. In reading the previous posts, I see that these simple-minded reactionists are spewing the type of hate/bigotry/evil-intent that they accuse you of. As a show of respect to you, I will make as many of my future firearm and firearm related purchases from your company as possible. Hang in there, the silent majority is on your side . . .
Ned
4/24/2007 6:19:22 PM
Mr. Thompson,
Thank you for the great service you provide to the public with your business - Ned...still serving my country for people like you for over 27 years. God bless.
ILUVAMERICA
4/24/2007 6:19:08 PM
You are not responsible for this tragedy and any one with any degree of intelligence should recognize this. Our forefathers put The Second Amendment so close to the top because they knew from experience what a government that oppresses its people can and will do. We live with a government today that puts a price on healthcare how can we expect them to protect us from a nutcase that was allowed to slip thru unnoticed. May GOD and GLOCK continue to bless this great country.
20Montana
4/24/2007 6:18:40 PM
Thanks TopGlock for getting out with your message. You are an upstanding company. Nothing at all would have stopped this craze killer except maybe a CCW. Problems are with Society, not guns.
led_better
4/24/2007 6:18:19 PM
Chris, dude, you did NOTHING wrong, like you say. That guy was gonna kill 32 people even if he had to make up excuses about his pathetic life until he BORED them to death. I'll bet there are hundreds of others in your industry who would jump at the publicity to legally sell a Glock to the next wannabe. But Topglock RULES. It's solid thinkers and businessmen like you who will stay way ahead of *that* competition.
lax
4/24/2007 6:16:45 PM
Is the car dealer who sold the car responsible for robberies or deaths caused by the person driving the car? Anyone can buy a car and drive it without a license or insurance.
bullit243
4/24/2007 6:14:07 PM
Gooday/ from australia/ IM a gun dealer and find it crazy we dont run lolly shops/ all the people that want guns are given the ok by the police so if any idiot can fool them who is to blame/ the system to meany do gooders then its into the courts and its be good dont do it again then there you go the next week back again in the mean time its the law abidding person that is always the victim //so you did nothing wrong we let the law handle it and we are let down again best regards bullit///
Valerie
4/24/2007 6:08:24 PM
I was just wondering if you feel any responsibility for the shooting and deaths of those poor children, this past week?
Gun Rights Supporter
4/24/2007 6:06:59 PM
If this idiot didnt get the gun from your company he would of got it some other way. Your company did nothing wrong. I have been a customer of your company for 2 years now and am very pleased with the way you conduct business. These anti gun people just want to make it easier for the criminals to take advantage of use.
Gary
4/24/2007 6:03:01 PM
Yes, all the gun purchases were legal and it is doubtful there is any further way he could have been screened out if there was such a screening available. Yes, we have and need the right to bear arms for both individual protection and protection from fascist tendencies that can subtly emerge within our own government. The dilemma that seems impossible to resolve is that it has now become increasingly possible for a single individual to do massive damage of a kind previously impossible in human history. The toll this may continue to take on our society from such terrorism is sobering. And neither gun control nor concealed carry can quite manage that evil. But yes I will carry.
GloryBigs
4/24/2007 6:00:04 PM
Cho went out on his own conditions, gun sold by you or a vehicle or a fire set, it was his choice and you followed the law. So be it.
CCW should have been allowed on campus and the story may have ended under one of the victums conditions instead of some angry young mans.
Black Bob
4/24/2007 5:57:56 PM
I wholeheartedly agree and had there been a few armed folks there at the time things would have not been so brutal and maybe Cho would have thought twice about it in the first place.
bab2783
4/24/2007 5:57:14 PM
You did no wrong, but atleast donate the profit from the sale to further gun rights instead of keeping it. BAB2783
Sean Newton
4/24/2007 5:54:14 PM
Well worded response. Were it not for the fact I'm on the "other side" of the great Glock Vs Sig/CZ war, I'd make it a point to order a pistol from you. Keep up the good work!
Mark
4/24/2007 5:54:08 PM
Ignore the windbags. I bought holsters from you a while back and your a damn good company.
cjphoto
4/24/2007 5:53:20 PM
To blame the gun would be the same as blaming car makers for every car crash. People, the responsibility lies with the user... and the sooner you accept that, the sooner we can move on. I'm tired of the finger pointing in the wrong directions.
Gary in Arlington
4/24/2007 5:52:52 PM
"It is also my belief that the only way to truly be safe is to be able to protect yourself. The Supreme Court has ruled that the People do not have any expectation of protection from law enforcement and has upheld it several times since. Therefore, if the government isn’t responsible for protecting us, we have to protect ourselves. Concealed carry reduces violent crime in every State it is implemented in. The rest of the States that don’t have concealed carry laws should implement them immediately."
I couldn't agree more. The Virginia debate SHOULD be about not disarming legal CCW holders on college campuses.
Glocklover
4/24/2007 5:48:59 PM
He got his gun awful quick, I normally have to wait a month when I order from www.topglock.com, it might be the gun store that I ship it to. They could be mad that I buy from you all and not them. Anyways, I love topglock.com, and will continue to buy from you all until I find somewhere cheaper, which I dont think will happen. Peace
MotoJB
4/24/2007 5:48:21 PM
You did nothing wrong - you can't be responsible for the sick mind and actions of that scumbag.
It's not your fault that the state had no checks and balances to look @ mental health records during a background check.
Cameraho
4/24/2007 5:48:02 PM
I've been a customer of yours many many times. This is NOT your (or OUR) problem from a gun ownership view. It is a problem of society and how crazies such as this are treated - we are too long on the 'careful not to offend anyone' crap. This guy should have been registered somewhere as a mental case and that info should have been in whatever background check system that is/was used. This is where the real problem lies. As sick as this may sound, this is the best GLOCK advertisement ever - I'll bet anyone that GLOCK sales will skyrocket mow as decent persons will now purchase weapons to protect themselves from such nuts, 'cause GLOCKs do get the job done. Too bad someone didn't GLOCK this nut!!!
Andrew
4/24/2007 5:43:44 PM
IT'S THE CRIMINALS AND MORAL DECLINE OF SOCIETY!! WAKE-UP LIBERALS!! GET REAL! Snap out of your little idealistic/not realistic world. TopGlock, you did absolutely NOTHING wrong in selling that gun. Do not let any ignorant, misinformed person make you waiver. Remember the price our forfathers paid for with their LIVES to give us the right to even type here in free speech.
LONG LIVE FREEDOM!!! ----From one very proud man from The Great State of Texas! :)
WESTSIDE
4/24/2007 5:42:39 PM
I MENT RIP TO ALL THE STUDENTS THAT PASSED AWAY IN VA
Danny B
4/24/2007 5:38:22 PM
It appears that you sold the gun by state and federal laws. You can not control the way in which it was used. Your company did not do anything wrong. And for those on the anti-gun wagon, tougher laws won't change a thing. Last time I checked it was against the law to take a gun to school and to use them to murder people. More guns in the hands of good people to defend themselves against criminals is what we need!
markk
4/24/2007 5:31:20 PM
you have done no wrong
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WESTSIDE
4/24/2007 5:27:38 PM
this guy did have problems but we dont have the right to judge him. i dont agree with what he did. I see people say god bless god bless. we have no right judging this person... He is in god's hands to judge.. you did nothing wrong with selling the gun.. but what bothers me is everyone looks at the 30 something people that got killed in VA but you never hear about one guy.. when its one guy its ok but 30 is wrong... RIP TO ALL THE STUDENTS IN V.A
DR
4/24/2007 5:25:28 PM
YOU SAID IT VERY WELL. I JUST WONDER WHEN THE HONEST PEOPLE ARE GOING TO TAKE BACK THEIR COUNTRY AND STOP ALL THESE LIBERAL BASTARDS FROM TAKING OUR RIGHTS AWAY FROM US ABIDING FOLKS AND START ON THE CORRUPTION AND CRIMINALS. A SICKO IS A SICKO NO MATTER WHAT WEAPON HE HAS.............
GOOD LUCK MAN.
analyst
4/24/2007 5:24:19 PM
a gun is no different then any other tool of any other trade. people have been killed with hammers, knives, bookends, axes, chainsaws, etc. each of these objects are inanimate and do nothing on their own but lie there. when someone uses them in anger, revenge, or because they are mentally ill; they are just the means to carry out their actions. LE has, on occassion, seen their own misuse weapons such as handguns, batons, mace, etc. when they do, they're penalized by the myriad of laws already on the books; the same ones any citizen would have to answer to as well. i've carried one concealed for a long time in a no carry/conceal state. when the time comes that i DO have to use it to protect my life or those of others, i'll take my chances with a jury that sees how many ;lives i DID save versus those that would have been lost otherwise. the bad guys always seem to have guns nomatter what the law says and i just what a level playing field!
don wentling
4/24/2007 5:23:45 PM
To live for everything is life. Unable to defend your chance to live, is unforgivable.
Dr.Dan
4/24/2007 5:22:22 PM
Sad to believe that there are people in this country that would blame you guys for having any resposibility for what this deranged youg man has done ! Guns do not kill ! people do !sick minds are the problem here,probably brought on by their up-bringing .....RESPECT.....thats is what is missing!
John Q. Public
4/24/2007 5:22:13 PM
HOW DO YOU SLEEP AT NIGHT?!!!!!!!!
jnmiller
4/24/2007 5:21:17 PM
The state is the actor that failed, not you. It failed in its duty to make a proper psychological evaluation of this guy and to have him committed. Do not let this affect you personally, you have done nothing wrong. No one will ever keep guns out of the hands of criminals or deranged people, such as Cho. And most of all, do not let the anti-gun liberals run you out of business.
Sonny
4/24/2007 5:21:16 PM
I cannot see where you have any fault in this. They don't blame cars for deaths by a Drunk Driver. The firearm is no more to blame than a automobile. The fault lies in the officials not making this wacko's condition a part of the police records. If they had done their jobs correctly, Cho could not have passed a background check. Therefore no pistol for him to do his horrible deed.
BurnsideBandit
4/24/2007 5:13:38 PM
I think it is tragic that so many people have lost so much! My heart goes out to the victims and families. Imagine what might have happened if the professors at Virginia Tech or other students were able to carry weapons into the class rooms. I bet you a dollar to a donut hole that Cho would have been unable to destroy 32 families. He might even be the only one who ended up dead?!! Sure he might have shot and killed a few, but, maybe some might have survived their wounds if they had received some medical attention from other students in the room. Its a terrible thing in this world that people dont place responsibility where it lies.
Liberal with a Glock
4/24/2007 5:12:44 PM
For most of my life I have been in favor of banning handguns and anything but true hunting rifles and shotguns. However, with the theft of so many guns, I am now in complete agreement with all who belive law abiding citizens should be able to legally own and carry weapons.
rj
4/24/2007 5:09:14 PM
You deserve to run your business in peace. I'm sure this was rough news to receive. Thanks for the candor during the media blitz. My thoughts are not only with the VT students and families, but also with you and your family as well.
LenJ
4/24/2007 5:03:39 PM
If guns kill people then pencils misspell words! Without a gun he'd have set a fire or built a bomb or driven a truck into a crowd...
He carefully observed, planned, prepared and executed his plan. The victims had little chance of survival as their means of protection had been stripped from them and replaced with the meaningless platitude "Gun Free Zone".
It's interestng that this rampage occurred in one of the few places in Virginia the killer could be sure that the victims would be unprotected and helpless. I wonder if he considered that before he started shooting.
Eric
4/24/2007 4:52:49 PM
My wife and I each purchased firearms from you last year. We are both licensed to carry concealed handguns, and use these firearms for target practice and competition as well as personal defense. I only wish that ATF had contacted you to say a gun you sold was used by someone like us to stop Cho Seung-Hui. Sadly, policies such as Gun-Free Zones limit our ability to protect ourselves (and possibly others) against such acts. As we have seen in the VaTech tragedy, these policies did nothing but enable the killer. Our prayers are with the victims and their families.
Collector
4/24/2007 4:52:16 PM
This unfortunate incident will have no bearing on my future pruchases from your website. Your business was not responsible, same as the gun was not responsible. The failure to stop Cho lies on the courts that deemed him dangerous and still allowed him to reside in a college dorm and failed to stop him from getting the gun.
Bubba
4/24/2007 4:49:02 PM
Hey, on the mental illness thing. Not everyone who get pych helps is a nut case. Most people function just fine who are being treated. If you run the stats on the number of Americans on pycho drugs....it would shock you. Very, very few of these peoples' problems rise to the threshold of being "committed". So, everyone seeing a pych doesn't need to be in a database...it would never fly...you know how many politicians, actors, wealthy folks this would include...just forget the idea.
The current standard on the Federal Form is being "committed" to an institution...if the answer is yes, then the gun sales STOPS. Cho was committed to an institution, so he lied on the form. The real question is how you get "committed" information into the database.
USCG
4/24/2007 4:46:50 PM
The guy was nuts and was proven in the court of law, why wasnt he committed in 2005!..........
Why are laws passed to limit honest citizens to carry guns? This tragedy is going to be used to disarm honest citizens of America. I believe reponsible and knowledgable citizens should be able to be armed and carry for protection against life-threatening situations and to balance our own government in case it gets out of hand, see Second Amendment. (Look at Tiananmen Square)
As a business owner making an honest living in San Diego I have been told that i need a good cause to carry a CCW and from what i have been told i have a slim chance of protecting myself due to anti-CCW mentality. So if i do get robbed, they can 1)have my money 2)still have their weapon, 3)commit another crime again 4)not face prison. Tell me where the fairness is. A weapon in the proper hands can help in certain situations where cops take forever to arrive too. Thanks
earl
4/24/2007 4:44:11 PM
this is the fault of va tech the police responded incorectly they should have locked down when shooting first started this was thought to be a single demestic improper protocal x law enforcment
toyman5699
4/24/2007 4:41:37 PM
you did nothing wrong! don't even think you did. my thoughts are with the poor kids this madman killed, and their families and friends. i'm in pa. and now we are going to have a $10 per gun tax a year!!!!!!!!!!! when a person with a green card can buy a gun. what's wrong with this picture. god bless and be well.
Mike G.
4/24/2007 4:41:07 PM
We apparently learn nothing in this Nation from our 9/11s, whether it be terrorist thugs bringing down our skyscrapers with our own planes and a handful of box cutters or an armed psychotic gunning down college students. This is what happens when people buy into the lie that bleats that if all of us are made equally weak we are somehow “secure.” Every right and responsibility that one delegates to some outside authority, including to no small degree the right to and responsibility for self-defense, causes one to be at the mercy of that outside authority should a crisis occur. We currently have societies in the U.S. where the population is strictly prohibited from possessing firearms or any other weapon, for that matter. Only the authorities are allowed arms. These oases of peace and tranquility are none other than our Nation’s prisons. There the most brutal reign in a gun-free paradise, beating, raping and even killing weaker inmates should the guards happen to be out of the imme
Rev Jim
4/24/2007 4:41:01 PM
Statistics say "on average" only 3% of people,shot with a handgun, die from it. Almost 100% of the people at VT were shot point blank in the head. All "gunfree zones" should at least require an individual to "resist executuion" by either a. teaming up on an assailant and subdue him, or b. run like hades! The proverbial" hide under the desk" and you will be safe teaching is/has/will always create a victim. Shame on all who contributed to this mindset, and who embolden psychopathic criminals. The "gun laws" were obeyed, but the moral law was not. That was the choice of the creep who shot those kids, not any gun!
CARifles
4/24/2007 4:40:45 PM
I wish someone with a gun had been able stop that crazy madman. TGS, you have have given so many of us the tools to protect ourselves and others. Hopefully next time one of us will be in a position to stop the killer.
PETEY-Z
4/24/2007 4:40:27 PM
I am a past and future customer of TGSCOM. Purchasing a gun "on line" requires the same procedures s purchasing on site. It is the left leaning media who warp the facts and skew the perception of the public. Feelgood legislation pushed by people like Schumer and his ilk does nothing to protect us. It only serves to stand in the way of self defense. Look at what happened in New Orleans last year. Police quit or couldn't get to citizens in harms way. Unless you could protect yourself you were easy prey for criminals. You have my full support.You are not responsible. Cho is the sole responsible person for the tragedy.
Hotshoe37
4/24/2007 4:39:29 PM
What happened at Virginia Tech was a caused by a madman, a flawed mental health system and a terribly bad immigration system. You guys are not to blame for operating a legal business. The system is broken and limiting law abiding citizens access to guns is not going to fix it. Keep your heads up, we all have to stand together to defend our constitution rights. As a side note to UK. You need to do more research before you start bragging about the low gun crime rate in the UK since you have more gun control. It is true your government reported 77 shooting deaths in 2005. If you take a good look at the 26 January 2006 Home Office Statistical Bulletin on Violent Crime you will notice that number is higher than any year between 1994 & 2001 and in fact the only year higher than the current 77 was 2002 with a peak of 97. In that same report muggings have increased by 4% between 1995 & 2005 and crimes commited on citizens by strangers is up 11% during the same period. You should be proud,
Anon
4/24/2007 4:38:07 PM
There is good reason to allow concealed carry by students/faculty on campus. This process has always been the best deterrant as school guards are not equipped for any such incident.
Zen-Guy
4/24/2007 4:37:03 PM
Hang in there TSGCOM. Our community of responsible gun owners understand your company has not done anything wrong. I also question whether the P22 was responsible for any of the deaths anyway. Those ignorant of the laws, and not understanding the reasons why law abiding citizins have and carry firearms, would be the only people giving you a hard time. Thank you for explaining your companies actions and posting this page.
Anon
4/24/2007 4:34:05 PM
I have purchased from you, and certainly agree with a majority of the people here in that the gun did nothing wrong. The human criminal did something wrong.
The above mention that handguns exist to only kill people... Wow, and to think that person is allowed to vote with an IQ in single digits.
jamesm
4/24/2007 4:28:43 PM
You are not responsible for the tragic events at Virginia Tech. It is not a gun control issue but a issue of using existing laws correctly and effectively. I realize this doesn't make the fact he purchased the weapon from you any easier but the truth is none of us knows what is in the heart of an individual and chances are even if they had flagged his mental problems on the NICS check he would purchased the weapons illegally or stolen them from someone. The fact is if you truly want to harm someone you can find a way to do it.
Cho Seung-Hui
4/24/2007 4:23:29 PM
Thanks for making the massacre possible, Death Merchant. You are just as responsible.
skooter1
4/24/2007 4:16:03 PM
It's too bad you didn't sale one of the students or faculty the firearm that stopped the murderer !!!! Oh, that's right, they weren't allowed to carry, I forgot ???? Go figure
jdc1244
4/24/2007 4:13:39 PM
TGS has done nothing wrong. No new gun laws are needed. The issue is how we treat those who are mentally ill, not the availability of guns.
MD. Officer
4/24/2007 4:08:50 PM
Your company followed the rules to sell the weapon. I'm a Police Officer and I still had to go through the background checks to pickup the Glock I purchased from your company. I work auto accidents as part of my job, no one thinks to ban liquor after a DWI fatality or to ban cars. There is a system of checks and balances and it was followed. There will be people that fall between the cracks for every rule made. Its sad but the weapon didnt commit the crime. The person who pulled the trigger did and he saved the state the cost of a trial. I wonder what people would have thought
if a permit carrying citizen would have stopped the bad guy going into the building and acted. I look at it this way, you dont want a gun, dont get one . My gun has never fired a round without a human assisting by pulling the trigger.
A loyal customer.
Evenau
4/24/2007 4:06:09 PM
Scenario: An distraught college student who is of foreign birth and feels that the entire world is mocking him, goes into a campus bar and, legally, gets drunk out-of his-mind. He then gets into his legally purchased vehile and, purposefully, drives accross campus hitting and killing as many students and faculty as he can before he crashes into a wall and takes his own life.
Do we blame the alcohol, the bartender, the automobile manufacturer, the dealer who sold him the car, the financial institution who gave him a loan to buy the car?
I think you understand where I am going... If not, then you wouldn't understand why it is ludicrous to blame this tragedy on the gun, dealer, etc. If he had not obtained the firearm legally, he would have found another way to commit this unbelieveable act of cowardice.
Brian from San Diego
4/24/2007 3:57:09 PM
I am an avid gun owner (over 30 handguns & 12 long guns), but, like UK, I'm troubled by the easy access to handguns. California has one of the tougher requirements for handguns and still has a horrific gun death statistic. Laws aren't everything, though. I've known cops since I was a kid (I'm 53) and have even worked with them. Their attitudes towards lethal force have changed. It's more a shoot first and ask questions later type of thing. I think if we are going to continue to live in a society that is free enough to allow us the privelige of owning firearms, we as gun owners must assume the resposibility to police ourselves in word and deed. We also need to look at why even law enforcement and resposible gun owners behave in such a nonchalant manner about the use of lethal force.
jc
4/24/2007 3:54:33 PM
First off.Guns don`t kill people,people kill people.If the same gun sat on a table and no one touched it,it wouldn`t kill anyone.It takes a criminal to pull the trigger and they don`t follow laws no matter hom many are put in place.And too the person who posted as "S".Your statement that guns are only purchased to kill people is not only ignorant,but unfounded, and your ignorance is disgusting.There are millions of LAW ABIDING citizens that own handguns including myself that have no desire to harm anyone with a gun.people like you like to hear yourself talk,but need to research facts before you speak.
Nick
4/24/2007 3:51:20 PM
"We advocate the responsible and legal use of firearms and are saddened that there are some who will pick up a firearm with the intention of harming an innocent human being." So, what are firearms for ? Shooting rocks or trees ? Get real, people use guns to kill each other. Selling guns should be forbidden. You bring death to your country.
icelandmt
4/24/2007 3:46:59 PM
You are not to blame for this nor is any of our public officials, education or health care providers the responsibility for this massacre is entirely Cho's.
It is unfortunate that Cho legaly obtained the Walther from a FFL Dealer however if he was not able to obtain it legaly it is a sure bet he would have borrowed one or obtained one illegaly.
I have heard a lot about the Walther but where did HE OBTAIN the more lethal 9mm ? I am positive this is the round that caused the most carnage
Behind you all the way.
Don
BPR
4/24/2007 3:46:58 PM
I, like so many others, feel terrible for the victims of the tragedy last week. The most innocent victims were obviously those who lost their lives at the hands of a sad, sick young man. But there are many other victims here: TGSCOM; the dealer in Roanoke who sold the criminal the Glock; and frankly, every other law-abiding, family-protecting, constitutional-rights-concerned, America-loving gun owner in the country. We all need to stand up for our rights and beliefs; and we need to do eloquently and firmly. Many great points have already been made (car dealers, bathtubs, etc.), to which I can not add any but my support. TGSCOM, I have not been a customer... yet. But I will be. Stay strong! And thanks for handling all of this professionally.
Responsibe gun owner
4/24/2007 3:40:59 PM
The laws need to be changed. All psychiatric treatment and diagnosis need to be fed to the national police databases so that mentally ill individuals can not obtain firearms. The HIPAA laws need to be changed. There are certain medical conditions that must be reported to the authorities, and mental illnes is one of those exceptions.
2nd Amd Advocate
4/24/2007 3:40:30 PM
Our prayers are with VT and the innocent members of society, which includes you and your employees, that have suffered because of this incident. We support your business and remain loyal customers. You followed the law and that is certainly not a crime, although many anti-gun advocates which includes the press believe otherwise. Thank you for speaking to the press and speaking for our Constitutional rights.
H-D Bagger
4/24/2007 3:39:57 PM
Yes, I own a handgun, and yes, I have over-capacity clips. No, I do not belong to the NRA, but owning a piece of protection is my right. People forget Va. Tech campus was a Gun-Free-Zone, what good did that law do? I am sorry for everybody's loss and a sad day for this entire Nation. It is an individuals right to decide on gun ownership.
j baisch
4/24/2007 3:34:31 PM
mmmmmmmmmm there is a fine line between this killing at virgina tech. the law was not broke, but the rite paper work was not filled out and sent in about the problems he had. If so then the nics check would of picked it up. people need to remember that guns are just tools. It's the people that use them that are the problem. Ya this will give the gun controle people a push, but they need to go after the people that did not file the rite paper work on this knot head. If all the rite paper work was filled out, then the gun check would of refused to go threw. then he would not been able to get the guns. very touchy subject. God bless the souls that lost there lives, and God bless the families........
mongo
4/24/2007 3:24:08 PM
To S: Me and five or six of my friends own handguns. Does this mean that we are destined to kill people? Hell no, we like to go out and do some target shooting. Just because you own a handgun doesn't mean you are going to use it to kill someone. Give me a break, you sound like a complete ass. But if it ever came down to someone pointing a gun at me I would most defiantly shoot them. I hope I am never in that situation. I will always be a supporter of The Gun Source.
rationalthinker
4/24/2007 3:20:14 PM
I think it is inappropriate to even mention your company name in connection with this senseless tragedy, as there was nothing remotely illegal about your business transactions. I don't mean to sound insensitive, but all this shows is what a good retailer you are, which is why so many people from other states and countries choose to give you their business. It really is as simple as that. What difference does it make where he acquired the firearm, as long as he did it legally. The chains he used to lock the doors are a big part of his crime as well. Are they going to attack the hardware store where he bought the chains? Let's stay focused on the real issues here.
cab0154
4/24/2007 3:12:32 PM
This event is truly a trajedy. I do however think it is rediculous that the media and other public entities are blaming those that sold a weapon legally to someone who had passed a background check. I personally believe that a brunt of the blame lies on the school councelors, teachers, and friends of the shooter that were aware of his unstable mental state but did nothing.
Vagabond
4/24/2007 3:12:12 PM
I think there is a flipside to our freedom, but we have to bear it, freedom comes at a price. A price we pay to have the right to defend our lives with weapons, the price we pay to not be checked by shrinks to walk our streets, etc. I do not support any further restrictions on gun sales/ownership. Actually, I believe felons have the same basic human rights as non-felons, whether it is the right for medical help or the right to own guns to protect their lives. I believe restrictions on guns for felons are hypocritical and unconstitutional.
We should resist the temptation to rush into even more restriction after the VA Tech shooting. Every time you trade your freedoms for safety, the only thing that is sure is giving up those freedoms, but getting some safety back may be just a wishful thinking.
BrianM
4/24/2007 3:05:44 PM
This country has once again experienced a terrible tragedy. We all feel for the families of the shooting victims. We cannot however blame the gun or the dealer, any more than we blame the car or the dealership for drunk driver fatalities. We may need better backround checks, inclusive of all pertinent individual mental health records. I'm sure NY and NJ will use this tragedy to try to limit our 2nd ammendment rights once again.
Proud to be American
4/24/2007 3:04:49 PM
I will stand by the values taught to me by my father and in turn am teaching to my son.
People need to be accountable for their own actions. Don't blame someone or something else for an outcome that was brought about by another persons choice. Our liberal society wants to blame someone or something for every problem, not accept responsibility for personal actions.
The solution is to teach responsibility to our children, not teach them to blame someone else for their problems. That starts with the example they see everyday.....mine and yours.
Vagabond
4/24/2007 2:59:58 PM
I am your returning customer and supporter. You are a good business, please stay strong.
FLA2760
4/24/2007 2:54:08 PM
Hello
I am a strong supporter of the Second Amendment. I am a life member of NRA and a retired NYC police officer. The blame for this horrendous CRIME is on the shooter alone. The fact that the firearm was purchased from you is irrelevant. You followed the law. My experience has shown me that people that are able to protect themselves with a firearm fare MUCH better than unarmed victims. The law needs to be modified to let valid CCW holders carry their weapon on the college campus. I know that had some of the professors or students been armed that many less would have perished. Godspeed to the victims and their loved ones.
Billy
4/24/2007 2:53:12 PM
This is an outrage. You should not be held responsible at all.
dalefan8
4/24/2007 2:40:23 PM
I sympathize with everyone involved in this tragedy. I thought the holding responsible of the gun manufacturers was behind us.Lookout Sears had someone used a craftsman hammer, they will try for tool control....
SAMS819
4/24/2007 2:37:36 PM
Yes this is a terrible tragedy, and we all feel deeply saddened. but lets put the blame were it needs to be. The shooter is to blame, we can all second guess his motives or frame of mind, but he pulled the trigger. You can not blame the gun, much as you could not blame the auto when a driver drives through a croud or hits someone head on. Do not let the actions of an induvidial, take even one legal hand gun, from the hand of any law abiding citizen of the great country. I am a customer of TGSCOM and will continue to be in the future.
Michigan
4/24/2007 2:34:23 PM
The liberal media does little better than to hype half-truths. Honest, peace loving people everywhere in this great nation should share my regret that your business was dragged through the hype after having conducted a fully legal interstate transaction. Thanks for helping by getting out ahead of them with the truth.
nate
4/24/2007 2:23:56 PM
An item is no a weapon until the person welding it uses it in a harmful manner. This can be the case for ANYTHING. Knives, forks, rocks, you name it have all been used in killings before but we dont set limits on them.
KimberHitman
4/24/2007 2:20:59 PM
First off, I'd like to say I am in complete support of TGS and our 2nd Amendment.
Yes, this shooting is certainly a tragedy, but it is absolutely important to remember that guns don't kill people, people kill people. As a college student, one of the fist thoughts that ran through my mind was what if someone else had a gun on their person?! If we were allowed to carry a gun on campus, I am willing to put my life on the line in an attempt to stop some maniac before 32 innocent lives are taken.
Another sad thought is that now the gun industry and gun laws are certain to face added scrutiny because of a single outrageous act by one mentally disturbed person.
Muddog
4/24/2007 2:14:28 PM
The media and interest groups will use anything to make a story. It has nothing to do with facts only with what they think they can turn into a story. I think the fault lies wiht the professionals who did not flag this man to the autorities as a potential threat when they knew he had violent tedancies, not to a business that follow the rules of the land. All the background checks in the world cannot stop a madman. If he had not gotten the gun from you he would have found one somewhere illegally.
Anonymous
4/24/2007 1:51:06 PM
You are in our thoughts.
Joecubana
4/24/2007 1:46:01 PM
Stay strong. It never ceases to amaze me how the "peaceniks" are quick to judge and threaten.....
The media response and the way they paint the industry has sickened me......We must follow through with our legislators and make sure there is not a knee jerk reaction to this senseless tragedy caused by a madman
DanDrennan
4/24/2007 1:44:02 PM
In response to UK: The UK (esp Scotland) has become one of the most violent nations in the industrialized world. All manner of violent crimes and attacks have risin in the UK, while violent crime rates have fallen significantly in all US states where Concealed Carry of handguns has been allowed. Bear in mind too that UK UNDER REPORTS crimes, only listing statistics for crimes that have been solved & successfully prosecuted. We in the US list stats from all crimes, even unsolved.
norman ward
4/24/2007 1:36:45 PM
I noticed he took some pics of himself with a hammer...a knife. Why do you think he did that? I think he would have used a fork if he had to, or a baseball bat. Maybe tough, feel good legislation should be passed regarding the use of forks and toothpicks. The gun was the tool, but the motivation...the mental process and the desire were not set in place by ownership of the weapons. The tools of murder can be and have been easy to come by since the dawn of time. The desire to kill for expression or as a result of a mental condition inducing dementia or schizophrenia is not a new concept. It precedes guns, gun laws and efforts to control populations. Horrific instances like this will occur long after we are gone and guns are not as we know them today.
It was his mind that killed.
kenbob
4/24/2007 1:27:22 PM
This is crazy. Why don't we blame the ammo manufacture.Why don't we blame his parents. Why don't we blame the system. Why don't we blame automobile manufactures for all the car fatalities yearly. This was a very sick individual who is to blame for this horrific crime and no one else.
Becky
4/24/2007 1:23:05 PM
YOU GUYS DID NOTHING WRONG. IF THE FEDS CAN'T KEEP UP WITH MENTALLY INSANE PEOPLE, THEN IT'S REALLY NOT YOUR FAULT. I KNOW IF YOU GUYS KNEW IT WOULD LEAD TO MURDERS, THEN THE SALE WOULD HAVE NOT BEEN CONDUCTED. THAT 22 PROBABLY DIDN'T KILL ANYONE ANYWAYS.
John
4/24/2007 1:21:37 PM
Duffer: Your wrong about the gun avenue being closed. If he would have failed a background check, he could have purchased from a private party (which does not require a check), or obtained the guns illegally. If he was set on using a gun, he would have found a way to get one...regardless of the laws.
Laws only effect law biding citizens. As soon as those gun grabbing assholes see that, the better off every one will be.
Don't be a victim, be a gun owner!
DanDrennan
4/24/2007 1:21:21 PM
You obeyed the law and complied with all requirements. You are certainly not to blame for one criminal's conduct.
Blaming you for lawfully selling a firearm would be as ridiculous as blaming a car manufacturer or dealer for selling a car that ended up being used by a drunk driver to kill someone.
CZ52GUY
4/24/2007 1:15:10 PM
RE: musicman,
Felons shouldn't have guns, NICS helps keep them from getting them from a gun shop, they still get them. Good people argue about the degree of "incompetency" which should disqualify firearm ownership, and whether with appropriate treatment, those who have been treated for moderate to severe mental illness should live a defenseless life or not.
That being said, my best read is that under federal law, Cho had been adjudicated mentally defective and lied on his 4473 form which proves that there are flaws in preventing lawful acquisition of firearms by those who forensically most would agree shouldn't have gained access. Consider that the 9/11 Terrorists were similarly quizzed by a gate attendant with those silly "3 questions" which was supposed to keep us safe by expecting self-declaration of intent by those that would do us harm. There is a slippery slope of medical privacy that a free society needs to consider, and weigh carefully against the alternative risks.
Duffer
4/24/2007 1:04:40 PM
I think a person's mental health history should be used to determine a person's eligibilty to buy a gun. Unfortuately this means tying in the mental health database with the criminal records which means the government is keeping more info on a person. But I think it is a necessary thing. If Cho's mental health records would have been part of the record (and not just a question on a form he lies about), then he would not have got guns. He probably would have figured out another way to kill people, but at least "gun avenue" would have been closed.
musicman
4/24/2007 12:49:01 PM
We have world/nationwide credit reports which include bad creditors names. Why can we have world/nationwide reports for people like Cho Seung-Hui for gun dealers to access before they sell a weapon. Discipline makes freedom and democracy, freedom without discipline makes chaos!
Nobody Special
4/24/2007 12:36:15 PM
S-You're full of S.
UK-You may be right, I don't know, but let's look at knife violence now.
I would add that the purchaser passed a legal background check.
CZ52GUY
4/24/2007 12:23:42 PM
UK: You have traded liberty for the perception of security. We threw your tea overboard and a few dozen of us stared down 100's of your Redcoats a few years back because Americans believed in something you apparently are incapable of understanding (some of us still do). You have legislators actively lobbying for the interest of the "poor home invader", and serious consideration has been given to banning the evil kitchen knife. An Englishman is no longer king of his castle, any home invader is free to come in and take over. Citizens are cautioned against any form of self-defense, your society has sided with the rapist and mugger instead of their victims.
You can take your high minded European idealism and shove it!
Liberty or death, as important today as it was the day Patrick Henry uttered those words.
UK
4/24/2007 12:11:42 PM
Please read: I live in the UK, where you cant buy a gun like a child's toy. Result - last year in UK 78 people were killed in by shooting. That is the equivalent to the number killed in the USA each day ! Populations UK-70 million. USA about 300 million. IF you do the calculations - but taking population into account, the numbers of fatal shooting in the USA is over 3000 times more(Three Thousand Percent-incredible fact). Even our street cops are not armed. Can't the USA gun lobby see, that these all the murders in the USA each are are carried out by people who should not have a gun. You have too many guns on the street and ultimately they are purchased somewhere. I don't blame you. Your country must change as a whole. Look deep into yourself and the concience of your nation. With the spotlight on you, perhaps you can become a catalyst and advocate for change. I wish you well. PS I have lived for many years in the US too.
CZ52GUY
4/24/2007 12:09:16 PM
re: blood on your hands
Do you drive an automobile? [sarcasm on] I similarly congratulate you and your buddies at AAA for racking up a death tool 4 times that of firearm deaths. [/sarcasm off]
I also congratulate you on your diminished intellectual capacity for failing to acknowledge that firearm ownership is legal, that there is no evidence that TGS broke any laws in the transaction that resulted in Cho purchasing the P-22, and that the administration at Virginia Tech insisted on setting up a "Gun Free Zone" which left the students defenseless.
The army of first responders? They were able to do NOTHING to protect the faculty and staff that Cho butchered.
The Virginia Tech administration pursued a flawed policy of "Law Enforcement Protection". Law Enforcement investigates crimes, arrests suspects, works with prosecutors to build a case. Seldom (as a % of incidents) do they have the opportunity to actually interdict a crime in progress. It is left to individuals to def
blood on your hands
4/24/2007 12:00:33 PM
congrats on your death count for this year. Kudos, be proud of yourselves....
CZ52GUY
4/24/2007 11:58:00 AM
To S:
If handguns only exist for one purpose, then obviously the 20,000 rounds a year I put through cardboard and into steel practicing and participating in competitions is the exception to your rule.
If handguns are only intended to kill, then literally billions of rounds of ammo' are being misused yearly.
It is you S, who is spouting a load of excrement. Handguns are tools used for a variety of purposes. Among them:
- Recreational Shooting
- Ethical Hunting
- Armed Citizen carry and self-defense
- Armed Professional carry and self-defense
- Criminal enterprises
Criminal enterprises represent a microscopic minority of utilization of handguns compared to the legitimate uses described above. It is a tool. When Andrea Yates murdered her children with a bathtub, there was no outcry claiming that a tub and water is a weapon of mass destruction. Parents morned the death of the innocents, continued to bathe their children, and continued on with their lives without decry
CZ52GUY
4/24/2007 11:48:00 AM
I'm pleased that you've done the best you can under very difficult circumstances. The liability SHOULD BE upon those who insisted that the victims be defenseless, not on your company which followed the law to the letter.
Unfortunately, criminals have the best free lobby out there. Academics, Media Pundits, the Entertainment Industry, and like-minded politicians all lobby for the interests of criminals like Cho. They did their utmost to make sure he had a target rich environment of defenseless victims. If he had survived, there would have been an army of lawyers lining up to defend him.
Instead, they blame "the gun culture". We're living in Wonderland folks, it's all upside down.
Keep Safe,
CZ52'
Proud Supporter
4/24/2007 11:45:03 AM
Hi, I want to thank you for clarifying with Fox News about ordering firearms online. Other networks have been intentionally vague about this and have implied that you can order and have a gun sent to your home. They mention this as a "loophole". We all know that it is no easier to obtain a firearm online than it is at your local gun store. I would bet that you are getting a lot of hate mail, but I want you to know that I support you during this time and I appreciate your unwavering support of our 2nd amendment rights. God Bless You!
S
4/24/2007 11:44:39 AM
Oh, how very touching your little ode to the people of Virginia. What a load of crap! If you really cared, you would admit that handguns are purchased for one reason only - to kill people. Furthermore, you would discontinue selling handguns online. It's disgusting.
Anonymous
4/24/2007 11:42:59 AM
I heard your interview on the radio and felt pretty bad for you. Even though you did everything by the book, the pistol was used by a madman. You couldn't have possibly known that and none of it is your fault in my estimation. Anyone who criticizes you is just plain old wrong. If anyone is to blame it's the people who failed to make a proper psychological recommendation to have this guy committed. God bless you and I pray that you find some peace through all of this.
Anonymous
4/24/2007 11:41:19 AM
I do not have a question, just a comment. I want you to know that I personally have no idea how you folks feel about selling a weapon to an idiot like the one who murdered all the innocent folks in Virginia. Ya'll did nothing wrong, and my thoughts are with ya'll through all of this. Gun's don't kill, it is a**h(&^s like him that do. God Bless and pass me the ammo!
ca
4/24/2007 11:31:36 AM
Sir: if a magic wand were waved and all the firearms owned by honest citizens disappeared, we would still have two things- criminals with guns and deranged individuals like Cho Seung-Hui. The weak, females and the elderly would be no safer, but less so. The lesson to be learned regards the treatment of mentally ill people and the reporting procedure to the federal database that allows such people to purchase firearms.
willy loves jesus
4/24/2007 11:30:24 AM
I love topglock